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Re: Microsoft passes Bobby

From: Marti <marti@MEDIAONE.NET>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:27:36 -0500
Message-ID: <001001be2dd0$5eb1a320$7b698018@mcculler2.ne.mediaone.net>
To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
GEEEZ you call that blistering criticism ? I said it was a good start!
I just don't see handing out kudos for a site that provides the text-only
link at the bottom of the page.
Marti
-----Original Message-----
From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>
To: Marti <marti@MEDIAONE.NET>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft passes Bobby


>At 03:23 a.m. 12/22/98 -0500, Marti wrote:
>>Did you mean the actual page or the text-only version?  Just passing Bobby
>>does not mean a site a friendly or accessible, just that it is a good
start.
>>Try accessing a site with a screen reader before you pass out kudos. The
>>text-only link is at the bottom of the page and the link says 'click
here'.
>
>To Marti and everyone else--
>
>Baby steps, folks.
>
>Also, please read my messages a little more carefully.  I said that they
>passed Bobby -- I didn't claim it was absolutely friendly or accessible,
>just that it passed.
>
>Now, I believe we should compliment folks who take those baby steps,
>and encourage them to continue forward; other people, judging from the
>email I've received, disagree and believe we should demand more and
>more.
>
>Quite frankly, I'll take my approach and you can take yours; I see
>something that I think is a good thing (and I think this _is_ a
>positive, good thing), and I will state it.  Other folks, feel free
>to tear down and criticize; there's a LOT of that in the "web
>accessibility movement", and hey, if you think that works for you,
>by all means.
>
>Feel free to issue whatever blistering criticism of the Microsoft
>page you like; if you want, you can make fun of me for not checking
>it against X or Y, or with such-and-such a browser, or for not
>checking every page on the Microsoft site.  Have fun!  I've got
>a web accessibility class to teach, meanwhile.
>
>--
>Kynn Bartlett  <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
http://www.idyllmtn.com/~kynn/
>Chief Technologist & Co-Owner, Idyll Mountain Internet; Fullerton,
California
>Enroll now for web accessibility with HTML 4.0!
http://www.hwg.org/classes/
>The voice of the future?
http://www.hwg.org/opcenter/w3c/voicebrowsers.html
>
Received on Tuesday, 22 December 1998 13:05:08 GMT

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