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RE: The problem with tables

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:17:35 -0500
Message-Id: <199807271718.MAA03824@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: <davadam@well.com>, "'WAI'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Responses to david are marked using JRG:
>To me, the use of tables for layout is not going to go away in HTML;
>therefore, a more profitable direction would be to fix the relatively few
>number of screen readers, rather than the nigh-unto-infinite number of web
>Thanks to Charles McCathieNevile for the excellent example of the problem
>with how screen readers deal with HTML content.  Why (he asked, getting
>ready to duck) are screen readers so stupid?  

JRG: Screen readers are designed to be a general purpose access to where
WWW browsing is only one of several tpes of software.  Some browsers are
getting smarter.  Henter-Joyce JAWS program manipulates the DOM of explorer
3.0 to relayour pages so there more accessible.

A table of contents in a
>left-most table cell is tagged as an identifiable HTML block.  Why haven't
>any of the screen readers been written to deal with HTML blocks, instead of
>just reading across and down?

JRG: I think we could ask authors to mark what the tables are being used so
that the rendering of the document could take into account the intedned use
of the table.  

>david adam edelstein
>"Most real growth involves an element of pain, certainly of confusion.
>If you're comfortable with what you're doing, you've been there before."
>--Jerry Uelsmann
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
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