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Re: ALT text revisited

From: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:31:20 -0500 (EST)
To: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980217202953.11276g-100000@shell.clark.net>
as you described it reading seemlessly, we won't know what a clickable
thing is.  if it is an immage of a button that you have to click on, I've
found that saying so let's me know where to click.
e.g. "submit button".
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998,
Liam Quinn wrote:

> At 08:52 AM 17/02/98 -0500, David Poehlman wrote:
> >comments marked with dhp below.
> 
> My comments are prefixed with LQ::
> 
> >dhp if it is a button, say it is a button.
> 
> LQ::  Why?  How does knowing it's a button provide you with any information
> about the *content* of the page?  The fact that a button is on the page
> provides no more information than knowing that the text is in Times New
> Roman and fuchsia.  What is needed is to know what the button represents,
> and for that the presence of the button itself is just a distraction if you
> can't actually see it.
> 
> >> ALT text should not be used with the APPLET element since richer alternate
> >> content can be provided as the content of the element.
> >dhp Is this backward compatible?
> 
> LQ::  Completely, moreso than if the ALT attribute is used, since a
> pre-HTML 3.2 browser won't get the ALT text but it will get the APPLET's
> content and present it as an alternative.  And the APPLET's content can
> contain HTML elements like STRONG and A, whereas ALT is limited to plain
> text.  As I mentioned before on this list, I don't understand why ALT was
> ever added to the APPLET element.
> 
> --
> Liam Quinn
> Web Design Group            Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development
> http://www.htmlhelp.com/    http://enhanced-designs.com/
> 

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