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Re: CAST Announces Bobby upgrade & Beta release of Bobby Application

From: wayne crotts <wcrotts@arches.uga.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 03:30:54 -0400 (EDT)
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980426030138.23108B-100000@archa7.cc.uga.edu>
On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

> Do we dare snub Bobby approval?
> Well, fantastic though Bobby is, my personal view is that Bobby is _one_ 
> of the tools that should be used to check pages. The cases raised (ALT="" 
> and simple tables) are good examples of where Bobby can fail the 

I think you misunderstand the issue.  This is a not a case of 'Bobby'
not only misidentifying an unaccessible page as accessible but vice versa.
Therefore, when we give 'Bobby' as a resource tool to web authors
interested in making their sites accessible, and it kicks back a page that
is accessible as not--- we are faced with much negativity to our cause.
Especially with the new all or nothing approach.

> tables ....
> anymore (I even took it out of my website today). The use of ALT="" is a 
> generally bad thing, although there may be individual cases to be made for 

If I go about suggesting to web authors not to use tables
because 'I don't like them,'  the conversation is going to end right there
-- and forget any efforts to make their web sites accessible. However, if
I can show the HTML 4.0 guidelines and the WAI guidelines and present the 
issues that multiple browsers including text browsers need to be able to
read their pages, -- then I have a sporting chance.  

HTML 4.0 and WAI guidelines should be our mainstay, right??? I can
appreciate personal opinion of what HTML 4.0 accepted protocol best to use
in a given situation, but not in the context of accessibility standards.
Or am I missing something here?


             Wayne D. Crotts
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