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Re: "tool tip" - alternate use of ALT; IE4 bad commercial ! (fwd)

From: jaap van lelieveld <Jaap.van.Lelieveld@inter.NL.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:21:19 +0100
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <P/7T08h/nHcc092yn@inter.nl.net>
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for your response on this subject.
A collegue of mine was so friendly to try something, but
the result was disappointing as far as IE4 is concerned.

I do hope the MSAA (with a MSAA-complient browser/screen reader
will do better).

"Charles (Chuck) Oppermann" <chuckop@MICROSOFT.com> wrote:
> With IE4, we use the TITLE attribute if both
> ALT and TITLE exist on the same element and ALT if TITLE is not present.

Best regards,
Jaap

Message from: Jaap van Lelieveld      The Netherlands
              Chairman of EBU commission on Technical Devices and Services
E-mail:       Jaap.van.Lelieveld@inter.nl.net

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---------------- HTML example:

The HTML example below refers to three GIFs.
1: has both a TITLE and an ALT attribute
2: only a TITLE
3: only an ALT attribute

1: If present the TITLE text is displayed as the TOOL TIP; OK
2: If no TITLE is present the ALT text is displayed as TOOL TIP;
   not perfect but ... a historical burden
3: The problems start when you do not ask for the GIFs:
   A: the GIF is not displayed; OK
   B: The ALT text is NOT displayed in place as usual; disappointing
   C: the TOOL TIP still works although the image is not there; 
      looks as a design bug as far as the UI is concerned.

All by all not promising.

Details:
IE4 version: 4.71.1712.6
GIFs: not supplied

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Welkom</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<CENTER>
<TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="0">
<TR><TD><FONT SIZE="-1">&nbsp;Zowel TITLE als ALT</FONT></TD><TD VALIGN="bottom"><A HREF="javascript:{}" ><IMG SRC="ima/iknp.gif" ALT="ALT-text" TITLE="TITLE-text" BORDER="0" WIDTH="37" HEIGHT="12"></A></TD></TR>
<TR><TD><FONT SIZE="-1">&nbsp;Alleen TITLE=</FONT></TD><TD VALIGN="bottom"><A HREF="javascript:{}"><IMG SRC="ima/iknp.gif" TITLE="TITLE-text" BORDER="0" WIDTH="37" HEIGHT="12"></A></TD></TR>
<TR><TD><FONT SIZE="-1">&nbsp;Alleen ALT=</FONT></TD><TD VALIGN="bottom"><A HREF="javascript:{}"><IMG SRC="ima/iknp.gif" ALT="ALT-text" BORDER="0" WIDTH="37" HEIGHT="12"></A></TD></TR>
</TABLE>
</CENTER>
</BODY>
</HTML>
Received on Thursday, 23 October 1997 16:27:53 GMT

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