Re: Interaction of "zoom content" and vertical writing modes

How about:


   - Content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without
   loss of content or functionality, and without requiring horizontal or
   vertical scrolling of the text content.

   NOTE: for most Western-based languages, that would be requiring no
   horizontal scrolling, for vertical-based languages, that would be requiring
   no vertical scrolling.


...in other words, by adding a note we can further disambiguate what we are
looking for. Thoughts?

JF

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
wrote:

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>    - Content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels
>    without loss of content or functionality, and without requiring both
>    horizontal and vertical scrolling.
>
>
>
> This has come up many times and the answer is no.  This wording allows for
> a horizontally scrolling page that doesn’t have vertical scrolling. For
> horizonal languages like English this would still allow for scrolling in
> the direction of the text.
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> *Subject:* Re: Interaction of "zoom content" and vertical writing modes
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> Can we cover it this way?
>
> Content can be zoomed to an equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without
> loss of content or functionality, and without requiring both horizontal and
> vertical scrolling.
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> Michael Gower
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> From:        David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
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> Cc:        "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2017-11-22 04:55 PM
> Subject:        Re: Interaction of "zoom content" and vertical writing
> modes
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> I'd rather not add the vertical part... it's speculative, and comes at a
> high cognitive load cost, unless someone brilliantly word smith's it.
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> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
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> *[Jason] Yes – they’re going to exist within the lifetime of WCAG 2.1,
> according to your own investigation, and should thus be handled in the SC.*
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> AC: Well, I said it was possible but the browser support is not there yet,
> and we don’t know when that might work.
>
> Where there is vertical text at the moment, it is on pages with vertical
> scrolling.
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> Given that, I’d rather not complicate it. Just trying makes my head hurt,
> you end up with something like this:
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> For pages that scroll vertically by default, content can be zoomed to an
> equivalent width of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or
> functionality, and without requiring horizontal scrolling.
>
>
>
> For pages that scroll horizontally by default, content can be zoomed to an
> equivalent height of 320 CSS pixels without loss of content or
> functionality, and without requiring vertical scrolling.
>
>
>
> Except for parts of the content which require two-dimensional layout for
> usage or meaning.
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>
> -Alastair
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