Re: Font Family failure

A mechanism exists to customize font-family,  spacing, color. Authors need
to identify if they are just using <span> and <div> for presentation
reasons only so that this use can be programmatically determined.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:

> A mechanism exists to customize font family.
>
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> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk
> > wrote:
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>> On 14/01/2017 17:41, Wayne Dick wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Steve. So, solution mark descendant void elements with role =
>>> 'presentation' .
>>>
>>
>> <span> and <div> are, by their definition, already semantically neutral
>> and presentational. So no, authors should not need to add
>> role="presentation" to them, as that should be the base assumption from the
>> start when you encounter those generic elements.
>>
>> JavaScript changing style could then create a symbol
>>> table of all 'presentation' elements grouped by style values, and change
>>> what is needed.
>>>
>>> There we have it. A mechanism exists.
>>>
>>
>> A mechanism for what? What are we actually talking about here now?
>>
>> You started the thread complaining that "Whoever wrote this site won't
>> allow a change of font family even if the change is the last author font
>> family specification set to !important.", and it turned out the problem was
>> not with the site, but with your custom stylesheet not accounting for
>> real-world markup and the possibility of nested elements in headings.
>>
>> Now we seem to have moved to some idea that authors need to add extra
>> redundant markup just so that it's possible to run additional scripts on a
>> page to allow for easy customisation of presentation for all possible
>> components in a page?
>>
>> At that point, I'd suggest that what you'd really want is a dedicated
>> user agent that strips out author-defined presentation and/or transpiles
>> existing pages (something like the "reader mode" in Safari for instance).
>>
>> I only use style sheets myself because they are easy for quick one-off
>>> solutions. For general users browser extension are the answer.  Still a
>>> style sheet could check for "role='presentation'" and do something
>>> useful.
>>>
>>
>> P
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