Re: Re[2]: Should we require labels to be always visible?

I would say it's already a best practice...

Lisa, are those with cognitive disabilities likely to loose track of what
the field label is, if it disappears after they click on it? Is that a
common complaint out in the wild about placeholder text for labels?

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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:15 AM, josh@interaccess.ie <josh@interaccess.ie>
wrote:

> <chair hat off>
>
>  >Would it help the cognitive community if the label is always visible.
>
> I like the demo David :-)
>
> I couldn't see my clients wearing having to do that. On mobile, there are
> times when screen real estate is so sparse that at best you get an icon and
> placeholder text.
>
> I just  don't think that would fly as a MUST, as best practice maybe. As
> long as it fits into the look and feel guidelines etc.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Detlev Fischer" <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
> To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org; david100@sympatico.ca
> Sent: 06/01/2017 16:03:31
> Subject: Re: Should we require labels to be always visible?
>
> That's one way of doing it, but there will be others. So the requirement
>> might be EITHER have external visible label OR if using placeholder, show
>> label next to field after focussing field.
>> Note that some implementations keep the placeholder text visible even
>> after focussing (mostly grey text) until you start typing, which I
>> personally find confusing. Not sure whether some SC (COGA?) or technique
>> addresses this yet.
>>
>> David MacDonald schrieb am 06.01.2017 16:51:
>>
>>
>>>  Most of the sites I evaluate these days seem to have placeholder text
>>> for labels. An aria-label helps, but the label still disappears on focus or
>>> on clicking into the field.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Would it help the cognitive community if the label is always visible.
>>> So for placeholder labels, should we require that the label appears near
>>> the field when the user clicks or tabs to the field? Like this?
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://davidmacd.com/widgets/floating-label/floating-placeholder1.html
>>> <http://davidmacd.com/widgets/floating-label/floating-placeholder1.html>
>>>
>>>
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>>>  David MacDonald
>>>
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