- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 18:17:01 -0500
- To: Kurt Mattes <kurt.mattes@deque.com>
- Cc: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com>, "Paul J. Adam" <paul.adam@deque.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDa2KDz5Hpn-LRnFEUN1FAZb+PcB=Q9HsCH53H42bQUTaQ@mail.gmail.com>
I was hoping during aria development we'd get a breadcrumb role, but it got voted down... it turns out that a couple of blind folks I've spoken to about breadcrumbs didn't know anything about them... these were computer users reasonably good at screen readers David & Kirsten MacDonald On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Kurt Mattes <kurt.mattes@deque.com> wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:21 AM, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> > wrote: > >> +1 to that. >> >> >> >> JF >> >> >> >> *From:* Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:05 AM >> *To:* Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com>; >> Paul J. Adam <paul.adam@deque.com> >> *Cc:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Thoughts on pull request? >> >> >> >> It looks like the label was added in response to the suggestion that >> there might be more than one navigation on a page and the label would help >> differentiate them for the user: >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2015JulSep/0194.html >> >> >> >> I’m happy to remove it as I wouldn’t fail a page for not having the >> aria-label, and I’m happy keeping it as I also wouldn’t fail a page for >> using “breadcrumbs” or “location”. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> AWK >> >> >> >> Andrew Kirkpatrick >> >> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >> >> Adobe >> >> >> >> akirkpat@adobe.com >> >> http://twitter.com/awkawk >> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility >> >> >> >> *From: *Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com> >> *Date: *Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:57 >> *To: *"paul.adam@deque.com" <paul.adam@deque.com> >> *Cc: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> *Subject: *Re: Thoughts on pull request? >> >> >> >> Yes, if at all needed, using aria-labelledby would be a good idea. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Srini >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> *Srinivasu Chakravarthula* >> >> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, *Deque* <http://deque.com> >> >> Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855 >> >> >> >> Deque University <http://dequeuniversity.com> | Follow me on Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu> | Connect on LinkedIn >> <http://linkedin.com/in/srinivasuc> | About Me >> <http://about.me/srinivasuc> >> >> >> >> Technology is a gift to everyone; let's create inclusive digital >> experience >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Paul J. Adam <paul.adam@deque.com> >> wrote: >> >> How about “Current Page” ? :) >> >> >> >> I do agree there’s no need for an aria-label or a better idea would be to >> use aria-labelledby and point to the ID of the “you are here” string. >> >> >> Paul J. Adam >> Accessibility Evangelist >> www.deque.com >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Srinivasu Chakravarthula < >> srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello Andrew et al, >> >> I am not sure if there is a real need for a label here when there is >> already info stating "You are here" which is more meaningful than >> "breadcrumb" or "location". >> >> >> >> I agree with Josh that location in general means to a geographical >> location and that's what users would assume specially there is a lot of >> location use in apps today. So even "Current location" as suggested by my >> friend Paul would also be confusing. Sorry Paul... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Srini >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> *Srinivasu Chakravarthula* >> >> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, *Deque* <http://deque.com/> >> >> Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855 >> >> >> >> Deque University <http://dequeuniversity.com/> | Follow me on Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu> | Connect on LinkedIn >> <http://linkedin.com/in/srinivasuc> | About Me >> <http://about.me/srinivasuc> >> >> >> >> Technology is a gift to everyone; let's create inclusive digital >> experience >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Paul J. Adam <paul.adam@deque.com> >> wrote: >> >> I would say something like “Current Location”. >> >> >> >> I don’t think that “Breadcrumbs” is a plain language term that >> non-developer folks know what it means in terms of a web site. >> >> >> Paul J. Adam >> Accessibility Evangelist >> www.deque.com >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I think that this may we be editorial, but what do people think – is >> “location” better than “breadcrumbs” in this example? >> >> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/pull/142/files?diff=split >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> AWK >> >> >> >> Andrew Kirkpatrick >> >> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >> >> Adobe >> >> >> >> akirkpat@adobe.com >> >> http://twitter.com/awkawk >> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Kurt Mattes > Senior Accessibility Consultant - Deque Systems > 610-368-1539 >
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