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RE: Broken Links and Redirects in Understanding and Techniques

From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 07:05:08 +0000
To: Carlos A Velasco <carlos.velasco@fit.fraunhofer.de>, Christophe Strobbe <strobbe@hdm-stuttgart.de>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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Dear Carlos,

I was referring to free validation service in http://validator.w3.org and this is no assertion, it is fact, that the plain entry W3C online service is not capable to do that. Please prove me wrong or show me a setting I may have missed.

If you speak of the W3C Validator Suite https://validator-suite.w3.org/) as " Our 
tool suite ",  I'd like to state the following:

1. It is NOT clear from the FAQ https://validator-suite.w3.org/faqs which level of support is offered (real-time DOM) in which pricing model
2. There is no complete feature documentation available
3. It is unclear if you can own, host, modify, extend etc. the suite
4. It is totally unclear if the suite offers extensive support for HTML5 or/and ARIA

I kind fully request to add respective info to the FAQ, this will avoid false assertions in future :)

Best Regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos A Velasco [mailto:carlos.velasco@fit.fraunhofer.de] 
Sent: Samstag, 6. September 2014 13:16
To: Schnabel, Stefan; Christophe Strobbe; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: Broken Links and Redirects in Understanding and Techniques

Dear Stefan,

Just for clarification. I do not think that your assertion is true. Our 
tool suite is able to validate (both markup and accessibility 
evaluation) at the server-side complete websites, and we use for it the 
rendered DOM of the page by integrating different rendering engines in 
our tools.

We do not need a browser for that.

On 09/05/2014 09:34 AM, Schnabel, Stefan wrote:
> Hi Christophe,
> which validators + accessibility validators do currently check using the *client-side browser DOM* and *not* server-side generated or static html? For instance, W3C Validator relies on protocols and *cannot* do this.
> I know e.g.  HTML Validator plugin for Firefox that can do this client-side: http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/new_install4.html but validating an entire site with it is tedious since IMO there is no crawling mechanism integrated.
> Do you have a complete list of alternatives?
> ...

Best Regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Saludos,

Dr Carlos A Velasco
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