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AW: Special Web Page Proposal for W3C site - discussing proper use of WCAG Techniques

From: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:13:20 +0100
To: "'Shadi Abou-Zahra'" <shadi@w3.org>, "'Gregg Vanderheiden'" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Cc: "'GLWAI Guidelines WG org'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "'Eval TF'" <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <511f3f79.87c10e0a.1fef.ffff89b3@mx.google.com>
Hi Gregg, Shadi, all,

thanks for starting.

I agree with Shadi's suggestions.

One question: I have two comments about the failures. Which is right
channel: public comments or mailing list?

Cheers

Kerstin

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Shadi Abou-Zahra [mailto:shadi@w3.org]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 09:21
> An: Gregg Vanderheiden
> Cc: GLWAI Guidelines WG org; Eval TF
> Betreff: Re: Special Web Page Proposal for W3C site - discussing proper
> use of WCAG Techniques
> 
> Hi Gregg,
> 
> Thank you very much for getting this started! I think this will be a
> useful resource in many ways, including for reuse in WCAG-EM.
> 
> A couple of initial comments:
> 
> #1. The document does not describe the relationship between techniques
> and failures to the WCAG2 Success Criteria. There is some wording in
> Understanding WCAG 2.0 that could be at least referenced to put this
> resource more in context of the overall WCAG2 framework and resources.
> 
> #2. The document seems to primarily talk about techniques and failures
> document by the WCAG WG and does not talk much about the possibility
> for other techniques and failures. This may reinforce the unfortunate
> myth that only WCAG WG can document techniques and failures.
> 
> #3. (Minor) the overall tone seems more preventive and negative rather
> than inviting. For example, how about something like "The Role of
> Techniques and Failures in WCAG 2" rather than "Proper Use of WCAG 2.0
> Techniques and Failures"? I think we need to find the balance between
> explaining what techniques and failures are, and cautioning potential
> misuse due to misunderstanding of their intended purpose.
> 
> Regards,
>    Shadi
> 
> 
> On 15.2.2013 00:56, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> >
> > We have for some time had a problem with people misunderstanding WCAG
> 2.0 Techniques and Failures.  Many have thought that the Techniques
> were required in order to conform to WCAG 2.0.    We have done a number
> of things to address this -  but not always with success.
> >
> > A suggestion was made that we create a single page with a simple
> message that could be pointed to by people wishing to make proper use
> of the Techniques clear.   It was pointed out that such a page would be
> useful to many stakeholders and organizations, including the WCAG 2.0
> Evaluation Taskforce.
> >
> > Such a page is posted for comments and suggestions at
> > http://tinyurl.com/WCAGTechNote
> >
> > This page allows you to directly comment on the page.   The page will
> be edited dynamically, so you can return to the page to see changes.
> You can also subscribe to the page to have comments and changes sent to
> you directly as they happen.  (click on the Comments button and select
> "notification options".)
> >
> > The options you will find there are
> >
> >
> > Notification settings
> > Don't send me any email notifications (not recommended) Enable email
> > notifications Notify me of all new comments and replies Notify me of
> > replies to my comments Notify me of replies to threads that I have
> > commented on Notify me when I am +mentioned in a comment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > Director Trace R&D Center
> > Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering and Biomedical Engineering
> > University of Wisconsin-Madison Technical Director - Cloud4all
> Project
> > - http://Cloud4all.info Co-Director, Raising the Floor -
> International
> > - http://Raisingthefloor.org and the Global Public Inclusive
> > Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Activity Lead,
> W3C/WAI International Program Office Evaluation and Repair Tools
> Working Group (ERT WG) Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
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