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Landmarks technique rework

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:54:12 -0500
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To: "'Michael Cooper'" <cooper@w3.org>, "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "Loretta Guarino Reid" <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Ooops bad tinyurl. Here it is

http://tinyurl.com/ax39jp9

 

 

I had an action item to rework the landmarks role, and to combine the two existing techniques, and to incorporate comments from the survey.

 

Here’s the result of that

http://tinyurl.com/abtysuu 

 

Cheers

David MacDonald

 

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From: Michael Cooper [mailto:cooper@w3.org] 
Sent: January-17-13 5:48 PM
To: WCAG
Subject: Minutes WCAG 17 Jan 2013

 

Minutes of the 17 January 2013 WCAG meeting are posted to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.


Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference


17 Jan 2013


Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2013JanMar/0011.html> 

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-irc> 


Attendees


Present

James_Nurthen, +644462aaaa, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Michael_Cooper, Gian_Wild, Kerstin_Probiesch, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Jason_Kiss, mijordan, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, MoeKraft

Regrets

Marc_Johlic, Alex_Li

Chair

Loretta_Guarino_Reid

Scribe

MichaelC


Contents


*	Topics <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>  

1.	Update of Techniques <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01> 
2.	LC-2730 : Why is there a test for CSS? <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02> 
3.	LC-2723 : Use of ALT= <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03> " " (containing a space) contradicts F30
4.	LC-2743 :  <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04> "Page Titled" vs. "Page Titles"
5.	LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient Techniques for 1.1.1 – Non-text Content <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05> 
6.	Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to identify regions of a page <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06> 
7.	Sufficient Technique for SC 2.4.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to bypass blocks of content <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07> 
8.	Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Headings using role=heading <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08> 
9.	Advisory Technique for SC 1.3.2 : Using aria-flowto <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09> 

*	Summary of Action Items <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary> 

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<trackbot> Date: 17 January 2013

<Kerstin> I'm one of the IP Caller

<scribe> scribe: MichaelC

-> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results Survey for 17 January 2013

<scribe> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid


Update of Techniques


lgr: want to publish updates to Techniques to catch up the various edits over the past year

not including ARIA techniques that we´re in the middle of now, that would be separate

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20130117/ Editors´ Draft of Understanding

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20130117/ Editors´ draft of Techniques


LC-2730 : Why is there a test for CSS?


RESOLUTION: Accept as amended

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Post_WCAG_2 Post WCAG 2 punch list


LC-2723 : Use of ALT=" " (containing a space) contradicts F30


<Loretta>  <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F30.html> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F30.html

<jnurthen> <div id="test">James<img alt="" src="test">Nurthen</div>

<jnurthen> <input type="text" aria-labelledby="test">

<David> Hi Gian... glad to hear your voice,,,

<scribe> ACTION: Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Draft techniques for picture alt [on Gian Wild - due 2013-01-24].

<scribe> ACTION: JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [on James Nurthen - due 2013-01-24].

RESOLUTION: accept as proposed


LC-2743 : "Page Titled" vs. "Page Titles"


RESOLUTION: accept as proposed


LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient Techniques for 1.1.1 – Non-text Content


<scribe> ACTION: cooper to migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [on Michael Cooper - due 2013-01-24].

Leave open for next pass


Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to identify regions of a page


<jnurthen> some alt text results - http://jnurthen.users.sonic.net/alttext.html

<MoeKraft> When defining regions of a web page, authors are advised to consider using standard document landmark roles. If the definitions of these regions are inadequate, authors can use the region role and provide the appropriate accessible name.

<MoeKraft> region (role) # A large perceivable section of a web page or document, that the author feels is important enough to be included in a page summary or table of contents, for example, an area of the page containing live sporting event statistics.

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/rdf_model.png ARIA taxonomy

<MoeKraft> 5.3.4. Landmark Roles # The following roles are regions of the page intended as navigational landmarks. All of these roles inherit from the landmark base type and, with the exception of application, all are imported from the Role Attribute [ROLE]. The roles are included here in order to make them clearly part of the WAI-ARIA Role taxonomy. application banner complementary contentinfo form main navigation search

<David> typo "ta help"

<MoeKraft> Here's the guidance we provide in our checklist, "An application landmark should only apply to an entire region of the page that has a collection of UI components that form an application for which all keyboard handling is solely handled by the application. Since Assistive Technologies recognize widgets and pass keyboard control to them, there is seldom a need to use role="application"."

<MoeKraft> http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/web/webnavigation.html

Leave open to incorporate comments


Sufficient Technique for SC 2.4.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to bypass blocks of content


Leave open to incorporate comments


Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Headings using role=heading


<MoeKraft> https://github.com/davidtodd/landmarks

use cases for role=heading

- retrofitting a site where can´t change DOM element hierarchy because of script effects etc. but can make accessible with role=heading

- headings go down to a level 7 which can´t be represented in HTML but can with role=heading aria-level=7

Leave open to incorporate comments


Advisory Technique for SC 1.3.2 : Using aria-flowto


Do not accept for now; postpone for future work


Summary of Action Items


[NEW] ACTION: cooper to migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
 
[End of minutes]

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