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Minutes WCAG 17 Jan 2013

From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:47:37 -0500
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Minutes of the 17 January 2013 WCAG meeting are posted to
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.


  Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference


    17 Jan 2013

Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2013JanMar/0011.html>

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    James_Nurthen, +644462aaaa, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Michael_Cooper,
    Gian_Wild, Kerstin_Probiesch, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Jason_Kiss,
    mijordan, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, MoeKraft
Regrets
    Marc_Johlic, Alex_Li
Chair
    Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
    MichaelC


    Contents

    * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
         1. Update of Techniques
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
         2. LC-2730 : Why is there a test for CSS?
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
         3. LC-2723 : Use of ALT=" " (containing a space) contradicts
            F30 <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
         4. LC-2743 : "Page Titled" vs. "Page Titles"
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04>
         5. LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient
            Techniques for 1.1.1 – Non-text Content
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05>
         6. Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to
            identify regions of a page
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06>
         7. Sufficient Technique for SC 2.4.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to
            bypass blocks of content
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07>
         8. Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Headings using
            role=heading
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08>
         9. Advisory Technique for SC 1.3.2 : Using aria-flowto
            <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09>
    * Summary of Action Items
      <http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 17 January 2013

<Kerstin> I'm one of the IP Caller

<scribe> scribe: MichaelC

-> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results Survey for
17 January 2013

<scribe> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid


      Update of Techniques

lgr: want to publish updates to Techniques to catch up the various edits
over the past year

not including ARIA techniques that we´re in the middle of now, that
would be separate

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20130117/
Editors´ Draft of Understanding

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20130117/ Editors´
draft of Techniques


      LC-2730 : Why is there a test for CSS?

*RESOLUTION: Accept as amended*

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Post_WCAG_2 Post WCAG 2 punch list


      LC-2723 : Use of ALT=" " (containing a space) contradicts F30

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F30.html

<jnurthen> <div id="test">James<img alt="" src="test">Nurthen</div>

<jnurthen> <input type="text" aria-labelledby="test">

<David> Hi Gian... glad to hear your voice,,,

<scribe> *ACTION:* Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Draft techniques for picture alt [on
Gian Wild - due 2013-01-24].

<scribe> *ACTION:* JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we
should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we
should remove mention of it from F30 [on James Nurthen - due 2013-01-24].

*RESOLUTION: accept as proposed*


      LC-2743 : "Page Titled" vs. "Page Titles"

*RESOLUTION: accept as proposed*


      LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient Techniques for
      1.1.1 – Non-text Content

<scribe> *ACTION:* cooper to migrate
http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and
incorporate edits from
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a
second round proposal [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Migrate
http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and
incorporate edits from
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a
second round proposal [on Michael Cooper - due 2013-01-24].

Leave open for next pass


      Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to
      identify regions of a page

<jnurthen> some alt text results -
http://jnurthen.users.sonic.net/alttext.html

<MoeKraft> When defining regions of a web page, authors are advised to
consider using standard document landmark roles. If the definitions of
these regions are inadequate, authors can use the region role and
provide the appropriate accessible name.

<MoeKraft> region (role) # A large perceivable section of a web page or
document, that the author feels is important enough to be included in a
page summary or table of contents, for example, an area of the page
containing live sporting event statistics.

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/rdf_model.png ARIA taxonomy

<MoeKraft> 5.3.4. Landmark Roles # The following roles are regions of
the page intended as navigational landmarks. All of these roles inherit
from the landmark base type and, with the exception of application, all
are imported from the Role Attribute [ROLE]. The roles are included here
in order to make them clearly part of the WAI-ARIA Role taxonomy.
application banner complementary contentinfo form main navigation search

<David> typo "ta help"

<MoeKraft> Here's the guidance we provide in our checklist, "An
application landmark should only apply to an entire region of the page
that has a collection of UI components that form an application for
which all keyboard handling is solely handled by the application. Since
Assistive Technologies recognize widgets and pass keyboard control to
them, there is seldom a need to use role="application"."

<MoeKraft> http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/web/webnavigation.html

Leave open to incorporate comments


      Sufficient Technique for SC 2.4.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to bypass
      blocks of content

Leave open to incorporate comments


      Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Headings using role=heading

<MoeKraft> https://github.com/davidtodd/landmarks

use cases for role=heading

- retrofitting a site where can´t change DOM element hierarchy because
of script effects etc. but can make accessible with role=heading

- headings go down to a level 7 which can´t be represented in HTML but
can with role=heading aria-level=7

Leave open to incorporate comments


      Advisory Technique for SC 1.3.2 : Using aria-flowto

Do not accept for now; postpone for future work


    Summary of Action Items

*[NEW]* *ACTION:* cooper to migrate
http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and
incorporate edits from
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a
second round proposal [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we
should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
 
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