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Re: [html-techs-tf] Agenda for 12th November 2012

From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:03:34 +0000
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To: "Boland Jr, Frederick E." <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
CC: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "w3c-wai-pf@w3.org PF" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
Hi y'all,

Here are the minutes of todays meeting.  Apologies for any omissions/errors.
Thanks to Detlev, Marc and Adam for scribing. [1]

Cheers

Josh

[1] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html

HTML Techs Task Force

12 Nov 2012

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Joshue, Marc_Johlic, Loretta, Detlev, Adam]
Regrets
Chair
Joshue
Scribe
Detlev, Adam
Contents

Topics
Update from TPAC
Summary of Action Items
<Joshue108> [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
<Joshue108> Scribenick: Detlev
Update from TPAC

<Detlev_> Sorry, I lost the connection, now back - need I register as 
scribe again?
<Detlev_> January: techniques will be released to wider group
<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
<Joshue108> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
<Detlev_> Loretta: we should update techniques with status info
<Detlev_> There is a testing page for the link purpose technique: 
http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-labelledby-for-link-purpose+tabindex.html
<Joshue108> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
<Detlev_> ACTION: detlev to add user agent notes to wiki [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]
<Detlev_> ACTION: Detlev to check for survey results for link purpose 
technique, implement changes if any were suggested [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action02]
<Joshue108> Loretta, I've just pinged you with the ARIA URL mappings doc 
that David MacD drew up at TPAC
<Joshue108> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
<Joshue108> This was surveyed
<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
<Detlev_> Detlev Aria-describedby technique: 
http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-describedby-1.html
<Detlev_> ACTION: Detlev to look whether to include the aria-describedby 
example in one of the existing terchniques [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action03]
<Joshue108> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
<Joshue108> Did you get feedback from the TF?
<adam> adam is scribe
<Joshue108> Scribenick: Adam
detlev: we have discussed this previously, will look for comments
joshua: update aria wiki to track progress
detlev: will tie up current ones before new ones
... invisible label tech can go out
... second 3.3.2 tech - drop second example
<Detlev_> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
detlev: describedby tech - integrate with other examples
... link purpose tech is ready for review
<Loretta> zaki, IPCaller is Loretta
<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
marc: aria-label for link purpose - will see if edits done, if so is 
ready for review
<Joshue108> 
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_role_of_alert_for_Error_Feedback_in_Forms
<Joshue108> Who did this one?
joshua: is "role of alert for error feedback" ready for review?
loretta, adam: activedescendant deemd not relevant for 2.4.3
adam: will look for email discussion on that issue
detlev: use case - search input with navigation and selection list
An example of keyboard navigation that is not the sequential navigation 
addressed by this Success Criterion is using arrow key navigation to 
traverse a tree component. The user can use the up and down arrow keys 
to move from tree node to tree node. Pressing the right arrow key may 
expand a node, then using the down arrow key, will move into the newly 
expanded nodes. This navigation sequence follows the expected sequence 
for a tree control - as[CUT]
loretta: in a widget, you can either navigate with focus or arrows 
(while focus stays in the main element)
<scribe> cont: " This navigation sequence follows the expected sequence 
for a tree control - as additional items get expanded or collapsed, they 
are added or removed from the navigation sequence.""
<Joshue108> s/Joshua/Joshue
activedescendant not relevant to 2.4.3 - but will combine with 4.1.2
activedescendant may be covered in 2.1.1 (not 100% sure)
will place the a-d tech in 2.4.3 just for reference - it may ot end up 
there in the end
marc: can take long text alternative 1.1.1
Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: detlev to add user agent notes to wiki [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Detlev to check for survey results for link purpose 
technique, implement changes if any were suggested [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Detlev to look whether to include the aria-describedby 
example in one of the existing terchniques [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action03]
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