W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > w3c-wai-gl@w3.org > July to September 2012

Re: [html-techs-tf] Agenda for 9th July 2012

From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:59:55 +0100
Message-ID: <4FFB0E0B.3030004@cfit.ie>
To: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
CC: Protocols and Formats Working Group WG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Hi y'all,

Here are the minutes for todays call. [1]

Cheers

Josh

[1] http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-html-techs-tf-minutes.html

HTML Techniques Task Force

09 Jul 2012

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Joshue, James_Nurthen, Jon_Gunderson, Marc_Johlic
Regrets
Chair
James Nurthen
Scribe
Joshue
Contents

Topics
* https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/html-techs-28-June-2012/
Summary of Action Items
<Joshue108> * https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/techstfJuly92012/
<Joshue108> scribenick: Joshue
<Joshue108> JonG: I am happy to go a technique, like a checkbox with 
mixed states.
<Joshue108> JN: Which guideline is that?
<Joshue108> JonG: Prob 4.1.2
<Joshue108> JOC: Thats great.
* https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/html-techs-28-June-2012/

<Joshue108> The group goes thru the techniques.
<Joshue108> JN: I think we need more simple generic techs, and then some 
more specific examples for widgets as needed.
<Joshue108> JonG: Its fine if we point to full working examples.
<Joshue108> JN: Do they need to be more detailed or is this ok?
<Joshue108> JonG: Full techs can be complicated.
<Joshue108> JonG: Are you going to replicate the authors guide?
<Joshue108> Jn: No.
<Joshue108> JN: We will try to focus them down, thats what Loretta has done.
<Joshue108> JonG: One of the practical things is that people can use 
libraries, for eg in the techniques doc.
<Joshue108> JN: But then they may not need to know the techniques then?
<Joshue108> JonG: The techniques doc may want to cover some of the 
considerations, such as dynamic menus that have three approaches. The 
techniques doc should show advantage and disadvantages etc.
<Joshue108> JonG: Some of the hotbutton issues for me are dynamic menus, 
hide/show panels and form controls for error feedeback.
<Joshue108> JN: We have a place for that in WCAG etc.
<Joshue108> JonG: The other issue is HTML5..
<Joshue108> JN: Menus sound like 4.1 to me, a tech for menus if you 
could do one that would be great.
<Joshue108> JN: There may be more detailed examples for widget types 
where there are scope for confusion.
<Joshue108> +1
<Joshue108> JOC: I'd like to hear from Jon has to say about the 
different approaches to dynamic markup of content using ARIA.
<Joshue108> JN: Lets get to that after discussing tech.
<Joshue108> JonG: On my comment, maybe it is ok.
<Joshue108> <discussion on use of image role="button"
<Joshue108> <discussion on Image Sprites, and its a11y issues>
<Joshue108> JonG: We could have a discussion on how ARIA could be used 
to make Sprites accessible?
<Joshue108> JN: This could be a good CSS tech, how to do sprites in 
accessible manner
<Joshue108> ACTION, James to draft technique tech for where native 
controls are preferable to ARIA annotations
<Joshue108> ACTION: James to draft technique text for where native 
controls are preferable to ARIA annotations [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]
<Joshue108> ACTION: Josh to AT test Toolbar example in "Using a WAI-ARIA 
role to expose the role of a user interface component" tech [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action02]
<Joshue108> JN: Why does the example 'Example 1:A simple toolbar' 
reference a menubar?
<Joshue108> JN: ANy other comments on example 2?
<Joshue108> JOC: Example 2 is simple and clean, should be fine.
<Joshue108> JonG tidies up Example 1.
<Joshue108> JN: We need to log a bug on the Authoring practices doc.
Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: James to draft technique text for where native controls 
are preferable to ARIA annotations [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Josh to AT test Toolbar example in "Using a WAI-ARIA role 
to expose the role of a user interface component" tech [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action02]
Received on Monday, 9 July 2012 17:00:32 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Monday, 9 July 2012 17:00:33 GMT