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RE: 28 June 2012 Agenda ==========================

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:17:50 -0400
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To: "'Gregg Vanderheiden'" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "'GLWAI Guidelines WG org'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Regrets... I've got a meeting at 3:30.... however, I'll carry my cell phone
with me... 613-806-9005 ...


I've provided a friendly amendment to the first issue... if you need to
contact me to clear it, you can call me, and I'll interrupt my meeting to
discuss any amendments or make any  explanations...




I'm nervous about the current language proposal for 2.4.6 (or in text)...
because it fails to provide context for  "or available in text per 1.3.1" .
It may cause confusion, even though it is articulated in the sentence says
that "structure and relationships" (not TEXT headings themselves) are
necessary. In 5 years of helping people with WCAG I've seen this type of
misunderstanding proliferate. SO I'm asking for a bit more redundancy in the
sentence to make it clear that TEXT Headings are not good enough...

Also, the Understanding of 1.3.1 makes it pretty strong that text should
only be used if there is no programmatic way to associate them... 


"Some technologies do not provide a means to programmatically determine some
types of information and relationships. In that case then there should be a
text description of the information and relationships ..."

Friendly amendment:

"Note: This success criterion does not REQUIRE heading and labels. Rather it
requires that if they are provided, they be descriptive. Also note that, if
headings are provided, their structure and relationship must be
programmatically determined (or their structure and relationship described
in text) per 1.3.1."



David MacDonald

PS I have my cell with me before the call also...


CanAdapt Solutions Inc.

  "Enabling the Web"

 <http://www.can-adapt.com/> www.Can-Adapt.com


From: Kathleen Wahlbin [mailto:kathy@interactiveaccessibility.com] 
Sent: June-28-12 6:59 AM
To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; 'GLWAI Guidelines WG org'
Subject: RE: 28 June 2012 Agenda ==========================


I may be a few minutes late to the meeting today.




From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:45 AM
To: GLWAI Guidelines WG org
Subject: 28 June 2012 Agenda ==========================


Sorry for the short notice


This week we have a very short questionnaire with just 2 questions.  One is
a repair to a resolution from last week


The other asks about the ability to publish the Understanding WCAG 2.0
document in the next couple weeks.


We will also have an update on the Task Force. 






Meeting Information

Time: 20:00 UTC, 6 AM Eastern Australia, 10 PM Central Europe, 4 PM Eastern

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Length: up to 90 minutes  (thought it will likely be short)

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Passcode: 9224#

IRC: irc.w3.org port: 6665 channel #wai-wcag



1.Task force requests to WCAG for June 22






Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering
University of Wisconsin-Madison

Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project
http://Raisingthefloor.org   ---   http://GPII.net







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