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Minutes WCAG 17 November 2011

From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:58:08 -0500
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Minutes of the 17 November 2011 WCAG meeting are posted to
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  Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference


    17 Nov 2011

Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011OctDec/0045.html>

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    +49.403.17.aaaa, David_MacDonald, Shadi, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
    Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Detlev, Kerstin, Marc_Johlic,
    Adam_Solomon, James_Nurthen, jongund
Regrets
Chair
    Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
    David


    Contents

    * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
         1. discussion of the Evaluation Methodology task force
            preliminary draft... the group felt that it needed more more
            work before releasing for public comment.
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
         2. The role of failure techniques in the WCAG Techniques
            document
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
         3. Issue LC-2513: Conflict between alternative options 1-4 and
            F69 <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
    * Summary of Action Items
      <http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20111115.html

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20111117misc/results


      discussion of the Evaluation Methodology task force preliminary
      draft... the group felt that it needed more more work before
      releasing for public comment.

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to talk about conformance in a Note-track
document and to talk about difficulty of evaluating success and failures
wrt techniques


      The role of failure techniques in the WCAG Techniques document

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to talk about technology-specific faiures

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20101014/G178

<kerstin> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kprobiesch/6354964973/in/photostream

<kerstin> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kprobiesch/6354964879/in/photostream

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say we documented failures that cause
page to fail even when sufficient techniques used; not applying any
sufficient technique is also a failure but we

<Zakim> David, you wanted to ask doesn't F69 applies to 1.4.8-bullet 5
(shouldn't it be listed as such?) so wouldn't be dropped from our roster

<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say that zoom CAN meet 1.4.8 depending on
the page itself

<Detlev> good point


      Issue LC-2513: Conflict between alternative options 1-4 and F69

<Loretta> Note: The Working Group has discovered many misunderstandings
about how to test this failure. We are planning to review this failure
in a future update. Until then, if you test this failure, be sure to
test against at least all of the sufficient techniques listed for this
success criterion and ensure that hte content fails for all of them.

<Detlev> fine.

<Detlev> no worries happy to discuss this

<Detlev> agree

<Detlev> fine


    Summary of Action Items

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Michael Cooper
Web Accessibility Specialist
World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org>
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