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Minutes WCAG 17 February 2011

From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:44:07 -0500
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Minutes of the 17 February 2011 WCAG meeting are posted to
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html and copied below.


  Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference


    17 Feb 2011

Agenda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JanMar/0028.html>

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    +1.727.391.aaaa, James_Nurthen, Michael_Cooper, Marc_Johlic,
    Bruce_Bailey, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Adam_Solomon, David_MacDonald
Regrets
Chair
    Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
    David


    Contents

    * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#agenda>
         1. is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the
            standard is settled... not for discussion today but to think
            about
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item01>
         2. Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02>
         3. Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03>
         4. Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly
            impossible to meet in most cases
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item04>
         5. Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc
            should be conditional on its application
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05>
         6. was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should
            include a check whether the function to turn off blinking
            content is documented
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item06>
         7. Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for
            any group of logically related input elements
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item07>
         8. Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item08>
         9. Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful,
            should encompass %, em, font size names
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item09>
        10. Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC
            1.4.4
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item10>
        11. <scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less
            useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font,
            center, strike, i, b, u)
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item11>
        12. Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item12>
        13. Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5
            <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item13>
    * Summary of Action Items
      <http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 17 February 2011


      is WCAG a good home for HTML 5 techniques before the standard is
      settled... not for discussion today but to think about

James recommended that we publish them with a note something like "these
techniques are based on the current status of the standard and may
change..."

<Loretta> Note: IT IS PREFERABLE FOR LINKS TO BE VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES,
SINCE USERS NAVIGATING VIA THE KEYBOARD INCLUDE switch users, those
using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly, screen
magnification software users, screen reader users working with sighted
colleagues, keyboard only users and those navigating using voice
recognition software. HOWEVER, SUCCESS CRITERION 2.4.1 DOES NOT REQUIRE
THAT THEY BE VISIBLE WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE FOCUS, AND LINKS

http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-focus-visible.html

Resolution: accept as proposed Issue LC-2456: Reword G1 'Description'
and 'Note'. (This will make "Skip to Main" as a permanent visible link)

Resolution accept as proposed: Issue LC-2469: SCR19 applies to SC 3.2.2 too


      Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem to fit

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2438: Test in G68 does not seem
to fit


      Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours?

Resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2427: F61: 24 hours? (changed
from 24 hours to 10x the default change of context time.
... WCAG group accept with suggestions EOWG is proposing an update to
WCAG 2 at a Glance.


      Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text increase nearly
      impossible to meet in most cases

<MichaelC>
http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Post_WCAG_2#Techniques

resolution: Accept as proposed:Issue LC-2466: Requirement for 200% text
increase nearly impossible to meet in most cases


      Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct use of longdesc should be
      conditional on its application

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2445: The test for the correct
use of longdesc should be conditional on its application


      was before last topic... Issue LC-2443: The test should include a
      check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented

<MichaelC> *ACTION:* cooper to draft a section about testing techniques
for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-125 - Draft a section about testing techniques
for the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [on Michael
Cooper - due 2011-02-24].

ccept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a check whether
the function to turn off blinking content is documented

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2443: The test should include a
check whether the function to turn off blinking content is documented

reolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2447: Test whether all th Elements
have scope attribute misleading


      Issue LC-2448: use of fieldset should not be required for any
      group of logically related input elements

<scribe> *ACTION:* Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - Reword H71 for comment LC2448 [on
Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2011-02-24].

<MichaelC> action-126: see comments in
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110127misc/results#x2448

<trackbot> ACTION-126 Reword H71 for comment LC2448 notes added


      Issue LC-2457: H93 and H94 are out of place


      Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in itself not meaningful,
      should encompass %, em, font size names

Resolution: accepted as amended Issue LC-2449: Test for percent is in
itself not meaningful, should encompass %, em, font size names


      Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other options to meet SC 1.4.4

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2450: Test contradicts other
options to meet SC 1.4.4

Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful than test for use of
deprecated elements (e.g., font, center, strike, i, b, u)


      <scribe> topic: Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less useful
      than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center,
      strike, i, b, u)

resolution: accept as amended Issue LC-2451: Check for CSS seems less
useful than test for use of deprecated elements (e.g., font, center,
strike, i, b, u)


      Issue LC-2437: I think there is a failure missing

<scribe> *ACTION:* on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on

<scribe> *ACTION:* Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment,
and get back to the working group.. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group.. [on Adam Solomon - due
2011-02-24].

Resolution: leave open 2437 pending adam's research
... accept as amended Issue LC-2459: Table heading in H63


      Issue LC-2433: SM6, SM7: SC 1.2.5

<MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting


    Summary of Action Items

*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437 comment,
and get back to the working group.. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* cooper to draft a section about testing techniques for
the Introduction to Techniques, relates to comment 2445 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* Loretta to reword H71 for comment LC2448 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
*[NEW]* *ACTION:* on Adam to look into the issue surrounding 2437
comment, and get back to the working group... [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
 
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Michael Cooper
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