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Re: Question on <pre> and <code> - violation of 1.3.1?

From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:08:30 +0200
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At 16:53 5/09/2008, Tina Holmboe wrote:

>On  5 Sep, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> >> > Is the use of <code> in this fashion a failure?
> >>
> >>   Surely the use of the semantically significant element "CODE" is more
> >>   than enough to satisfy the requirements?
> >
> > The litmus test is support by AT; being semantic is not 
> sufficient in itself.
>   This falls squarely into the realm of the AT. The element is the
>   indication it SHOULD use - if it does not, it requires repair, not
>   markup hacks.
>   The ball should be firmly kicked back to those who creates UAs which
>   fail to take advantage of the semantic interpretation that is there.

Sure, but accessibility is not a theoretical exercise based on "should".
For example, finding an accessible image replacement technique wasn't just
a matter of reading specs but involved a lot of testing.

Best regards,


>   I surely hope no-one is about to say "We need to write our documents
>   using certain words so that ATs can present the information in a way
>   that the user can understand", for if so they've just argued HTML and
>   XHTML out of existence.
>  - Tina Holmboe       siteSifter                  Greytower Technologies
>             http://www.sitesifter.co.uk          http://www.greytower.net
>       Website Quality and Accessibility Testing

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