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RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:10:05 -0800
Message-ID: <53744A0A1D995C459E975F971E17F56402C5515D@namail4.corp.adobe.com>
To: "David MacDonald" <befree@magma.ca>, "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I'm not sure I see that.  Since audio and video are both time based
content, video with audio is definitely included.
 
Is this better?: 
 
Audio or video displayed at the same time as additional audio, video, or
other time-based content or interactive components that are required for
understanding or use of the complete presentation.
 
Original New version:
Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based content
and/or with time-based interactive component that is required for
understanding or use of the complete presentation. 
 
AWK


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	From: David MacDonald [mailto:befree@magma.ca] 
	Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:01 PM
	To: Andrew Kirkpatrick; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
	Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media
	
	

	Andrew, I agree that we need the equivalents that you mention.
The problem I have is with the wording of the sentence not with what we
are trying to say. It seems like we are saying 

	1)      Audio with time-based interactive OR

	2)      Video with time-based interactive

	 

	It needs to be clear that it also means:

	3)      Video with Audio 

	 

	Perhaps we are saying that time based interactive includes audio
or video but I don't think this is clear. Perhaps something like this.

	 

	 

	Synchronized Media 

	1)      Audio with corresponding video displayed at the same
time. 2) Audio or video displayed at the same time as other time-based
content and/or with time-based interactive component that is required
for understanding or use of the complete presentation. 

	Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or video is
synchronized with to meet this definition does not include equivalents
such as captions, subtitles, or video description. 

	 

	 

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	From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick
	Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:08 AM
	To: David MacDonald; Gregg Vanderheiden; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
	Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media

	 

	I disagree with that assessment.  Synchronized media  can be
lots of things.  audio slide shows, audio with interactivity are also
very common.  I don't think that it is misleading - it is important
since these are the key items that require the equivalents that aren't
required elsewhere.

	 

	AWK

		 

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		From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David MacDonald
		Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:19 AM
		To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
		Subject: RE: : multimedia - Synchronized Media

		The only thing that bothers me about it is the opening.

		 

		"Audio or video..."  Most synchronized media
(multimedia), I'd say 95%,  is Audio synchronized WITH video. So placing
the two of them at the front of the sentence with an OR separating them
is kind of misleading I'd say.

		 

		David MacDonald

		 

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		From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
		Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:44 AM
		To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
		Subject: : multimedia - Synchronized Media

		 

		 

		 

		
		Gregg
		 -- ------------------------------ 
		Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 

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		NEW PROPOSED DEFINITION 

		 

		 

		Synchronized Media 

		Audio or video displayed at the same time as other
time-based content and/or with time-based interactive component that is
required for understanding or use of the complete presentation. 

		Note: The "other time-based content" that the audio or
video is synchronized with to meet this definition does not include
equivalents such as captions, subtitles, or video description. 

		Definition from WCAG 

		synchronized media

		audio or video synchronized with another format for
presenting information and/or with time-based interactive components 

		 

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