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RE: [teitac-websoftware] Color

From: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:38:38 +0100
To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7261AC2A5F73904CA41773C8F00813FF04ECA2C092@EA-EXMSG-C309.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Reads a bit better, but I still see a problem in using 'difference'; after all what information is conveyed by sameness in color?

My preferred wording, as I've suggested in WCAG, is to use color coding

1.4.1 Use of Color: Any information that is conveyed by color coding <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#informationbycolordef> is also simultaneously evident visually without the color coding.



Sean Hayes
Incubation Lab
Accessibility Business Unit
Microsoft

From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
Sent: 21 August 2007 17:19
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: FW: [teitac-websoftware] Color

>From TEITAC (508)  discussion.

I think Sailesh's edit is a good editorial one to make.


CHANGE  "simultaneously visually evident",   TO   "simultaneously evident visually"

ALSO another related (non Sailesh) change
 CHANGE  "conveyed by color differences"  TO    "conveyed by difference in color"

Does anyone think that is less clear or changes the meaning?
Here is the context.
CURRENT WORDING
1.4.1 Use of Color: Any information that is conveyed by color differences <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#informationbycolordef> is also simultaneously visually evident without the color differences

PROPOSED NEW WORDING

1.4.1 Use of Color: Any information that is conveyed by difference in color <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#informationbycolordef> is also simultaneously evident visually without the color difference.


Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
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From: teitac-websoftware-bounces@list.teitac.org [mailto:teitac-websoftware-bounces@list.teitac.org] On Behalf Of Sailesh Panchang
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:17 AM
To: 'TEITAC Web/Software Subcommittee'
Subject: Re: [teitac-websoftware] Color

"Difference in color"  between parts of content is the key. So I vote for the WCAG2 statement and Greg's reasoning if I may.
That statement precisely conveys the evaluation criterion.
In the WCAG2 statement  I suggest a small editorial change:
Instead of "simultaneously visually evident", I feel "simultaneously  evident visually" reads better without loss of meaning.


Sailesh Panchang
Senior Accessibility Engineer
Deque Systems Inc. (www.deque.com)
11130 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite #140,
Reston VA 20191
Phone: 703-225-0380 (ext 105)
E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
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