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RE: proposal for 4.2.1

From: Tim Boland <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:50:14 -0400
Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20060925090241.00c4ba20@mailserver.nist.gov>
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
For "up-to-date", does this mean that all "versions" of a web unit would 
have exactly the same demonstrable
(verifiable) "time-stamp" or "date modified" indication on each web unit?


SIDE NOTE: The word "version" still implies to me changes in functionality 
(please access "definition" of "version" in
[1] -"new version of specification refers to significant functional change 
and enhancement"-, and TAG finding on "versioning" in [2]).  I know that 
[1] applies to specification versions, and [2] applies to language 
versioning, and we are discussing web unit versions.    Still, since we are 
using the same term -"version"- differently in WCAG than it may be used in 
other W3C documents ("version" is an "overloaded" term within W3C?), 
perhaps we should either define "version" in our glossary, say more 
specifically what we mean by the use of the word "version" in our context, 
or replace "version" with another word (perhaps "alternative", as in 
"alternative Web units" that are "equivalent")?

Thanks and best wishes
Tim Boland NIST

[1]: http://www.w3.org/QA/WG/qaframe-primer
[2]: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning.html


  At 11:03 PM 9/23/2006 -0500, you wrote:
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>Hmmmm
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>That is the number one complaint  - and we always get grief for this 
>SC.  So I thought maybe it should be in the SC itself.
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>Gregg
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>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
>Director - Trace R & D Center
>University of Wisconsin-Madison
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>From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org 
>[mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Loretta Guarino Reid
>Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:18 PM
>To: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
>Subject: Re: proposal for 4.2.1
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>Can we address this issue in the definition of multiple versions of a Web 
>unit? The definition says that all versions have the same content and 
>functionality, which should imply that they are equally up to date. But we 
>may want to add wording to the definition to make this explicit.
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>On 9/23/06 3:47 PM, "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu> wrote:
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>I think there was a strong desire to point out that it has to be up to 
>date.    So maybe
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>When [multiple versions of a Web unit] are available, at least one version 
>conforms at Level A and is most recent update. Any version that does not 
>conform at Level A provides a mechanism to obtain an up to date version 
>that does, and that mechanism meets all Level 1 success criteria.
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>Gregg
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>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
>Director - Trace R & D Center
>University of Wisconsin-Madison
>The Player for my DSS sound file is at 
><http://tinyurl.com/dho6b>http://tinyurl.com/dho6b <http://tinyurl.com/cmfd9>
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>From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org 
>[<mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org%5d>mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] 
>On Behalf Of Loretta Guarino Reid
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:16 AM
>To: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
>Subject: proposal for 4.2.1
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>Based on today s discussion and Greg s stab, here is another proposal for 
>wording SC 4.2.1:
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>When [multiple versions of a Web unit] are available, at least one version 
>conforms at Level A. Any version that does not conform at Level 
>A  provides a mechanism to obtain a version that does, and that mechanism 
>meets all Level 1 success criteria.
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>Glossary entry:
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>multiple versions of a Web unit:
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>Web units in the same natural language that provide all of the same 
>information and functionality <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/>
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>Is this getting any closer?
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>Loretta Guarino Reid
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>lguarino@adobe.com
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>Adobe Systems, Acrobat Engineering
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Received on Monday, 25 September 2006 14:51:01 GMT

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