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RE: Is using frames to group links a sufficient technique for 2.4.3?

From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:19:57 -0600
Message-ID: <6EED8F7006A883459D4818686BCE3B3B034DE2F5@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu>
To: "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, "WCAG " <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

Beck asked:

<blockquote>
There is a proposed technique for SC 2.4.3 (More than one way is
available 
to locate content within a set of delivery units where content is not
the 
result of, or a step in, a process or task.)  titled, Using frame
elements 
to group blocks of repeated material AND Using the title attribute of
the 
frame element. There is no content in the first technique.   I am
guessing 
that the intended technique is to use a frameset and frames to group 
different content on the page.  For example,
<frameset cols="20%, *">
   <frame src="navigation.html" name="navbar" title="Navigation Bar">
   <frame src="main.html" name="maincontent" title= "Main News Content"
> </frameset>

Thus, all of the navigation links are found within navigation.html and 
grouped within the frame.  I wanted to check with the larger group that 
this was indeed a sufficient technique for 2.4.3 before investing the
time 
to create the technique. Would this also be sufficient for 2.4.2 (A 
mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on 
multiple perceivable units.)?
</blockquote>
I was unable to attend the Team B call yesteday (7 March) so may have
missed something, but I think this proposed technique was intended as a
sufficient technique for what is now SC 2.4.2 (bypassing blocks of
repeated material). That SC *used* to be 2.4.3.

I *don't*  think the proposed technique *is* sufficient for the SC more
than one way is available to locate ... Etc., at least not just in
combination with the title attribute of the frame element.

But maybe I'm missing something?

John



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Subject: Is using frames to group links a sufficient technique for
2.4.3?



There is a proposed technique for SC 2.4.3 (More than one way is
available 
to locate content within a set of delivery units where content is not
the 
result of, or a step in, a process or task.)  titled, Using frame
elements 
to group blocks of repeated material AND Using the title attribute of
the 
frame element. There is no content in the first technique.   I am
guessing 
that the intended technique is to use a frameset and frames to group 
different content on the page.  For example,
<frameset cols="20%, *">
   <frame src="navigation.html" name="navbar" title="Navigation Bar">
   <frame src="main.html" name="maincontent" title= "Main News Content"
> </frameset>

Thus, all of the navigation links are found within navigation.html and 
grouped within the frame.  I wanted to check with the larger group that 
this was indeed a sufficient technique for 2.4.3 before investing the
time 
to create the technique. Would this also be sufficient for 2.4.2 (A 
mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on 
multiple perceivable units.)?
Thanks for your feedback.

Becky Gibson
Web Accessibility Architect
                                                       
IBM Emerging Internet Technologies
5 Technology Park Drive
Westford, MA 01886
Voice: 978 399-6101; t/l 333-6101
Email: gibsonb@us.ibm.com
Received on Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:20:02 GMT

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