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RE: perceivable structures

From: Tim Boland <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:36:08 -0500
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To: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
For "perceive" - How about "to become aware of directly through the 
senses", "to take notice of", or "to achieve understanding of"?

Thanks and best wishes
Tim Boland NIST

At 09:35 AM 2/22/2006 -0600, you wrote:

>Well,
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>We could use another word for perceive but we decided that we wanted to 
>stick with perceive because is was sensory agnostic.   Still you make a 
>good point Tim.
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>Hmmmm.  Got another word for perceive or a short definition of it we can 
>plug in?
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>Gregg
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>From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On 
>Behalf Of Tim Boland
>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:16 AM
>To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>Subject: Re: perceivable structures
>The proposed definition seems somewhat "circular" to me - "perceivable" 
>defined in terms of "perceived"
>Maybe change proposed definition to:
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>"relationships in the content that are (objectively?) noticeable (through 
>the user's senses) from the default presentation"?
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>Thanks and best wishes
>Tim Boland NIST
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>  At 02:28 AM 2/22/2006 -0600, you wrote:
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>This definition seems backward.
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>perceivable structures
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>relationships in the content that are necessary to perceive the 
>organization of the content.
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>I think it needs to be
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>perceivable structures
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>relationships in the content that can be perceived from the default 
>presentation.
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>RATIONALE
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>What we are trying to achieve is to make sure that any relationships that 
>are obvious from the presentation are also obvious when looking at the 
>markup.
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>Yes?
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>Gregg
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