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FW: 1.2 issue

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:06:32 -0600
To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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At the team A meeting we reviewed Summary by Alex and propose the following

 

1) The following are informative (C2) issues and are passed to the Editors
for action.

 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1534> 1534
suggests to use Stevie Wonder's site as example for providing lyrics.  Some
concern over using copyrighted material.  Techniques work should remove this
issue.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1603> 1603
suggests techniques to create caption for real time material is identical to
that of pre-recorded material.  Techniques work should remove this issue.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1604> 1604
refers to use of upper case for caption of tutorial.  Techniques work should
remvoe this issue.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1732> 1732
suggests to change wording of "who benefit".  "Who Benefits from Guideline
1.2: Both sentences should include " and transcripts" at the end. Otherwise
the benefits of transcripts are not made clear." May affect techniques and
how to meet doc. 

 <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1370> 1370 is
incomprehensible.  Clarification needed.

Recommend to keep open.

 

 

 

2) the following is handled by content of current techniques.  

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1627> 1627
suggests sc 1.2.4 was written with assumption of "universal sign language".


[GV:  ] Suggest close with comment:  This is addressed by current techniques
language. 

 

 

3) the following all deal with the same group of issues.  Suggest that we
poll the group with the questions (that follow this list) to address these
issues. 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1729> 1729
suggests to add text transcript at L1 because caption may be too small and
insufficient.  May add more technique if wg decide to add to sc. 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1765> 1765
debates that text transcript should be an option.  Outcome of the debate may
affect sc, how to, and techniques docs. 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1815> 1815
suggests that 1.2.1 should provide collated transcript.  Similar to
<BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1765> 1765.
Outcome of the debate may affect sc, how to, and techniques docs. 

 <blocked::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1601> 1601
suggests to make "captions or transcript" L1 and "captions and transcript"
L2.

 <blocked::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1602> 1602
suggests to make "audio description or transcript" L1 and "audio description
and transcript" L2.

 <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1704> 1704 suggests to
move 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 from L1 to L2 but add transcript in L1.  This issue
overlap in level discussion.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1816> 1816
says, "We want you to keep 1.2.2 to "Audio descriptions of video are
provided for pre-recorded multimedia". Then it is possible to listen to the
text, either the whole or just the one about what is happening, that is
provided in 1.2.1 perhaps in another language than the original. The
discussed change in the editorial note does not make it easier to get what
is needed."

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1824> 1824
says. "I think it is a good idea to change to this version as it should
encourage at least a minimal level of accessibility vs. people not trying at
all. Same for 1.2.2".  Don't understand why this is still an open issue.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1730> 1730
suggests to keep caption at L1.  

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1731> 1731
suggests to keep audio description at L1.

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1803> 1803
suggests that captions are more important than audio description.

Recommend to close with explanation that captions and audio description
benefit people with  different disabilities

 <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1704> 1704 suggests to
move 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 from L1 to L2 but add transcript in L1.

 <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1754> 1754 suggests to
move 1.2.1 from L1 SC to L2

 <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1850> 1850 suggests to
move 1.2.3 from L2 to L1 to keep harmonization with section 508.

 

 

SURVEY QUESTIONS

1.	Should 1.2.1  include transcript option?
2.	IF we have transcript option on  1.2.1  should it be at L1
3.	IF we do NOT have transcript option on  1.2.1  should it be at L1
4.	IF we have transcript option on  1.2.1 at L1  should transcript be
required  at L2

 

5.	Should 1.2.2  include transcript option?
6.	IF we have transcript option on  1.2.2  should it be at L1
7.	IF we do NOT have transcript option on  1.2.2  should it be at L1
8.	IF we have transcript option on  1.2.2 at L1  should transcript be
required  at L2

 

9.	Should 1.2.3 be moved to level 1 and collapsed with 1.2.2 (IF it is
still at L1)

 

 

Suggest we also Poll the following. 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1841> 1841
suggests to remove the term multimedia as it is too vague.  Outcome of the
debate may affect sc, how to, and techniques docs.

Recommend to close with explanation that the proposed change would cause
confusion between 1.2 and 1.1.  Subject to wg consensus.

 

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1152> 1152
asks for exception or phase-in for multimedia.  Not likely to lead to change
in SC.

Recommend to close with explanation that it is an compliance or legislation
concern, but not a WCAG issue.

  

 <BLOCKED::http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1862> 1862
suggests to expand the term multimedia from audio and video to tactile and
other sensories.  

Recommend to close with explanation that availability of tactile info over
the web is limited in the near future.  

 

 

Gregg
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