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RE: Definition of "Relationships"

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:18:16 -0500
To: "'Tim Boland'" <frederick.boland@nist.gov>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <009901c69182$156abad0$6966d946@NC6000BAK>
Good catch Tim,

 

Hmmmm

 

How do we choose the right word/phrase,  that is technology independent, yet
doesn't sound like it has a secret meaning we don't define. 

 

Part?

Component? 

 

Element - has defined meaning and we don't mean just element.

 


Gregg

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Tim Boland
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:41 AM
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Definition of "Relationships"

What objectively determines/measures a "distinct chunk of content" for this
definition (as opposed to alternatives?  Perhaps expand/further define what
is a "distinct chunk of content"?  There are some examples given, but
perhaps more definition is needed?

Thanks and best wishes
Tim Boland NIST

At 10:32 AM 6/16/2006 -0400, you wrote:




I like it&

 

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:27 AM
To: 'John M Slatin'; 'David MacDonald'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Definition of "Relationships"

 

Agree.

Also talk about form controls

 

 

Hmmmm

 

So maybe something like:

 

 

Definition of *Relationships*:

 

"semantic associations between distinct chunks of content"

 

Examples of chunks that have relationships include: a heading and the
paragraph which follows it; a section title and the subsections that are
within it; a control and its label; the boxes in an organization or flow
chart; and table cells and their headers. 

      

 

Other comments? 


Gregg

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of John M Slatin
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:59 AM
To: David MacDonald; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Definition of "Relationships"

 

Thanks, David!

 

It might be good to add a non-text example, e.g., "Associations between
positions shown in an organizational chart" or "Associations beteween
decision-points in a flow-chart" or something like that.

 

John

 

 

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of David MacDonald 

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:14 PM 

To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org 

Subject: Definition of "Relationships" 

I had an action item with Katie to come up with a definition of
Relationship& 

This is the proposal: 

Definition of *Relationships*: 

"Semantic associations between distinct chunks of content." 

      Example 1: A heading is in relationship to the paragraph which follows
it. 

      Example 2:  A section title is in relationship to the subsections that
are within it. 

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Discussion: 

"Semantic" is another way to say "meaningful" (as per the Wikipaedia
definition of Semantic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic 

So the definition could also be: 

"Meaningful associations between distinct chunks of content."  But I think
semantic works better. 

"chunks" could be replaced by "portions" or "sections" but I think "chunks"
is very understandable. 

David MacDonald 

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        ...barriers disable them... 

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