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RE: Link Text SC's

From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:54:56 -0500
To: "'Loretta Guarino Reid'" <lguarino@adobe.com>, "'Gregg Vanderheiden'" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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> "Read more" following the opening sentences of an article satisfies 2.4.4
- 

There is no way, in my opinion, that the link information in this (rather
typical) example is "Programmatically associated" with that link. He said
that having no definition of "Programmatically associated". 

 

If that is the intention of the SC (which I accept) then the wording must
change.

 

Jim

 

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Loretta Guarino Reid
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 6:22 PM
To: jim@jimthatcher.com; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; WCAG
Subject: Re: Link Text SC's

 

Actually, "Click here" with a good title attribute satisfies both, since the
title attribute is explicitly associated with the link (so you could include
that information in the link list). However, "Read more" following the
opening sentences of an article satisfies 2.4.4 but not 2.4.8.


On 5/20/06 4:08 PM, "Jim Thatcher" <jim@jimthatcher.com> wrote:

Thanks Loretta - I now understand the intended difference - but it sure
isn't/wasn't clear to me. 
 
"Click here" with a good title attribute is good for 2.4.4 but not 2.4.8. 
 

Jim

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From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lguarino@adobe.com]
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:30 PM
To: jim@jimthatcher.com; 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; WCAG
Subject: Re: Link Text SC's

Context can be used in interpreting the link in 2.4.4, but not in 2.4.8.
(See the technique that is sufficient for 2.4.4 but not for 2.4.7:
Identifying the purpose of a link using link text combined with link context
USING a technology-specific technique below (for a technology in your
baseline)) 

If 2.4.8 is satisfied, a list of links for a web unit should give a user
sufficient information to understand the purpose of each link. This may not
be true when only 2.4.4 is satisfied, since it may be necessary to retrieve
the context of the link to understand its purpose.

Loretta


On 5/20/06 3:19 PM, "Jim Thatcher" <jim@jimthatcher.com> wrote:
In 2.4.4. text (from which its purpose can be determined) has to be
associated with the link.   
In 2.4.8 the link text has to describe the purpose of the link

Sound similar. So, must ask again, what is the difference?
 

Jim

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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
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Subject: RE: Link Text SC's


In 2.4.4. text has to be associated with the link.   In 2.4.8 the link text
has to describe the purpose of the link.  



Gregg

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On Behalf Of Jim Thatcher
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:33 PM
To: 'WCAG-WG'
Subject: Link Text SC's
Can someone please explain the difference between SC 2.4.4 and SC 2.4.8.
They seem the same to me. The "How To Meet" text is essentially the same
(when "programmatically associated" is defined as someone has suggested).


Jim

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