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RE: Practical reality

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpatrick@macromedia.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 04:34:19 -0800
Message-ID: <DC9D05204B1E16419D62C12561C932210640E1D1@p01exm01.macromedia.com>
To: "Roberto Scano \(IWA/HWG\)" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, <ueki@infoaxia.co.jp>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

>     I'm sorry?  Captions and audio description take the same 
> amount of time
>     as each other to add to a movie/multimedia?  
> 
> Roberto:
> I told that for add captions and for add audio description 
> the editor takes the same time for both (and not, as you have 
> understand, that put a video with captions require the same 
> time of a normal video

So you mean to add video that already has captions and to add a video
that has audio descriptions take the same amount of time as adding a
video without? I can agree with that, but the making of the captions and
audio descriptions is the time consuming part. 

> Andrew:
>     For audio description, you're looking at more time, twice 
> or more as
>     much, at least.  
>     
> Roberto:
> Using appropriate tools like Magpie (a 2001 tool, free) is 
> more easy to made audio description

I'm glad to hear you say so, but I disagree for most videos.  However,
depending on the video it might take more or less time to describe the
content adequately.

> Roberto:
> For all alternative content for people with disabilities 
> (also alt text, link groups, etc.) there is need of 
> professionality. We are talking about wcag 2.0 conformance 
> (and possibility future law conformance) and not only about 
> amatorial web sites.

Writing god alt text requires some special knowledge as well, but
description is much more difficult.

> Roberto:
> You are asking to give no access to multimedia at level 1? I 
> see a right for people with disability. Have we thinked that 
> this could be a discrimination?

No.  I'm suggesting that unless there is a basis that is clear to the
end-reader of this document for why things are to at L1 vs. L2 that
there will be questions and confusion.  

I'd love to see both captions and descriptions at L1, but I'm not
certain that it is practical.  Do you think that live captions and audio
descriptions belong at L1?  If the practical realities are not taken
into consideration we would have a lot more L1 items...

AWK 
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