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RE: GL 2.5 L2 SC2

From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lguarino@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:58:17 -0800
Message-ID: <0DAF2B31FBCEB6439F63FA7F91601F7434E988@namail3.corp.adobe.com>
To: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "WAI GL \(E-mail\)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

I updated the Guide Doc to try to be more specific about how to provide
the suggestion to the user. 

None of these sufficient techniques are meant to be preventive; they are
all meant to describe the kinds of guidance that should be given to a
user when an error is detected. Since that isn't coming through clearly,
does anyone have any suggestions for how I might communicate that more
effectively?

Loretta Guarino Reid
lguarino@adobe.com
Adobe Systems, Acrobat Engineering 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:09 PM
> To: Loretta Guarino Reid; 'WAI GL (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: GL 2.5 L2 SC2
> 
> Not sure I understand your question - but the sufficient techniques
have
> to
> respond directly to the success criterion requirements.  In this case
-
> things to do when the content/server detects an error by the user.
(some
> of these look preventative rather than responsive.  Those are good
ideas
> but
> not required by success criterion.
> 
> Follow?
> 
> 
> Gregg
> 
>  -- ------------------------------
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> Director - Trace R & D Center
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lguarino@adobe.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
> To: Gregg Vanderheiden; WAI GL (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: GL 2.5 L2 SC2
> 
> Hmm. I guess we need to say something like
> 
> "Providing a text message that identifies the field as mandatory"
> 
> These are all meant to identify what suggestions to provide, and would
> presumably use the same techniques as GL 2.5 L2 SC1 to report to the
> user. Should we explicitly refer to the error reporting techniques
from
> that SC?
> 
> Loretta Guarino Reid
> lguarino@adobe.com
> Adobe Systems, Acrobat Engineering
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:42 AM
> > To: Loretta Guarino Reid; 'WAI GL (E-mail)'
> > Subject: RE: GL 2.5 L2 SC2
> >
> > Thanks Loretta
> >
> > Could you look at the SUFFICIENT parts again?
> >
> > As I look at them they don't match the success criterion which is
> about
> > "if
> > an error is detected...."
> > But the "sufficient" items all talk about preemptive prompting
rather
> than
> > recovery techniques.
> >
> > These are all good  -- but just phrased wrong.  I think it is fairly
> easy
> > to
> > fix.
> >
> > For convenience they are listed below.
> >
> >
> >
> > Situation A: A mandatory field contains no information:
> >
> >     * Identifying the field as mandatory.
> >
> > Situation B: Information for a field is required to be in a specific
> data
> > format:
> >
> >     * Providing examples of the data format, or
> >     * Describing the data format, or
> >     * Providing values in the data format that are "similar" to the
> user's
> > entry
> >
> > Situation C: Information provided by the user is required to be one
of
> a
> > limited set of values:
> >
> >     * Providing the list of acceptable values and highlighting
values
> (if
> > any) that are "similar" to the user's entry, or
> >     * Allowing the user to choose from a list of acceptable values,
or
> >     * Describing the set of acceptable values, or
> >     * Describing the set of acceptable values and providing values
> from
> > the
> > list that are "similar" to the user's entry.
> >
> > [edit]
> > Technology-independent techniques for providing suggestions to the
> user
> >
> >     * Providing information about the number of input errors,
> suggestions
> > for corrections for each item, and instructions on how to proceed
> >     * Providing suggestions for correction as the first item (or one
> of
> > the
> > first items) of content, or emphasizing this information in the
> content.
> >     * Displaying errors and suggestions in the context of the
original
> > form.
> > (e.g., redisplaying a form where input errors and suggestions for
> > correction
> > are highlighted and displayed in the context of the original form.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> >
> >  -- ------------------------------
> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> > Director - Trace R & D Center
> > University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]
On
> > Behalf
> > Of Loretta Guarino Reid
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:03 PM
> > To: WAI GL (E-mail)
> > Subject: GL 2.5 L2 SC2
> >
> >
> > One of my action items was to clean up the guide for GL 2.5 L2 SC2,
on
> > providing suggestions for corrections to input errors. You can find
> the
> > revised version at
> >
> > http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_2.5_L2_SC_2
> >
> >
> > Loretta Guarino Reid
> > lguarino@adobe.com
> > Adobe Systems, Acrobat Engineering
> >
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