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Re: R: NEW: Issue #1544

From: <lguarino@adobe.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:22:56 -0700
To: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Message-id: <45f1fc46098a.46098a45f1fc@adobe.com>

We seem to be getting baseline issues and validity issues entangled here.

Let us hypothesize a baseline that includes Flash. Today, that probably means an environment where all users 
are guaranteed access to Window + IE +  JAWS or WindowEyes. If content in that environment makes Flash 
accessible via use of the <embed> object, but otherwise satisfies all the WCAG success criteria, should the 
content be judged not in compliance with WCAG 2 because it does not validate?

If a baseline doesn't include Flash, perhaps because the audience is using non-Windows platforms, then 
alternative content is clearly required for the Flash content.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
Date: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:09 am
Subject: Re: R: NEW: Issue #1544

> On 13 Aug, Bob Regan wrote:
> > content using Windows / IE / JAWS. Dropping the <embed> object will
> > cause a significant use case to experience serious problems. At the
>  No, not really; not as long as the *alternative* content is there 
> and  accessible.
>  In the most generic terms possible: not every type of data that some
>  author might want to embed in HTML will be perceivable by all users.
>  We need to focus on how to best supply alternatives; not on how to
>  ensure, come hell or high water, that everyone get the same content
>  wrapped in the same way.
> PS:
> > I know this is going to get me more nasty emails privately...
>  I would hope the participants on this list are more mature than 
> to go
>  after the man and not the ball. I'm sorry to hear that this isn't 
> the  case.
> -- 
> -    Tina Holmboe                    Greytower Technologies
>   tina@greytower.net                http://www.greytower.net/
>   [+46] 0708 557 905
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