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Re: Exploding the myth of automated accessibility checking

From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 06:00:19 -0400
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To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>

As Chaas has already pointed out and also on the tangent of Mr.  
clark, I would hesitate to deal with things in this fashion.  The web  
like a well worn home, needs a human touch.  There are so many bad  
examples of machine determined human things that it is surprising  
that we are not alloing humans to enter into the picture or at least  
permitting them to have equal weight.  All guidelines need to be  
human testable so that you can if you like use a simple sentence below.

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On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:


I think changing it to "and/or" is reasonable edit.

Gregg

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On  
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Of Patrick H. Lauke
Subject: Re: Exploding the myth of automated accessibility checking


Wendy Chisholm wrote:


> The 30 June 2005 Working Draft of WCAG 2.0 says, "The Working Group
> believes that all success criteria should be testable. Tests can be
> done by computer programs or by people who understand this document.
>

I'd say the core problem here lies with the "or" in that last sentence.
It implies that *all* tests can be done by *either* a computer *or* a
person. You would probably want something more along the lines of:
"Carrying out the entire series of tests will require people who  
understand
this document. However, some (or even "a small subset of") tests can be
automated / performed by computer programs."

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