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Heat and Light

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:12:06 -0500
To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <auto-000031206419@spamarrest.com>

Hi Rob, Lee, All,

This is inspired by recent discussion on the list - but the message is for
us all. 

 I must say again that it is not appropriate for anyone to take comments
posted to the list and generalize them to the full working group.  Unless
comments are posted as items that are consensus statements from the group -
they are just someone's suggestion or comments.

That said.. the head seems to be rising here so let me ask that personal
comments about people (this goes both ways ) are not appropriate on the list
or in postings.   You can talk about yourself if you feel background is
helpful.  But the rest of the comments should be strictly on the concepts or
ideas presented.

Also, if someone counters your comment - and you can - please comment back.
Much of the heat I see generated (not just here) is because people get
frustrated when the pose some point and someone neither acknowledges or
speaks against it but just goes off in another direction.   If you agree -
it is VERY good to say that too - especially if you change your mind.  If
not then you can say you must agree to disagree and then let it lie.  

It is great if we get things resolved on the list.  but it is more important
that we get things brought to light so the working group can consider them.
The heat only blurs our vision and the clarity of the discussion.  WE ARE
ALL ON THE SAME SIDE.    To make guidelines that are practical and
effective.  This is very hard.  Very hard.  And very frustrating since the
solution is complicated but must be made simple - or it is incomprehensible.

So lets all try to keep our cool. (I sometimes lose it too - which is why I
always try to read my posts twice - sometimes three times before posting.
And many are completely rewritten.)  And lets think our way through this.

Thanks everyone for all the participation.  Everyone is very busy and it is
much appreciated, even when it just points to more issues we need to


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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Received on Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:12:25 UTC

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