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RE: Linear reading order

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:18:15 -0500
To: "'Joe Clark'" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "'WAI-GL'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <auto-000014837385@spamarrest.com>

Joe

Please do not attribute to the working group anything that is not posted as
a consensus agreement.  

Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 


-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Joe Clark
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:42 PM
To: WAI-GL
Subject: RE: Linear reading order


> Perhaps a case could be made that Yvette's example of the sentence
> broken into paragraphs that are floated left and right violates 3.1
> because the order in which the phrases occur in the default
> presentation-- the source document as it would be rendered by user
> agents that don't support style sheets--

And why are we supposed to care about those?

I urge the Working Group not to fall prey to its classic habit of 
penalizing authors for any standards-compliant advance that somebody comes 
up with. You know, we make hypertext so that documents can be nonlinear, 
but suddenly documents must be linearizable; we require correct semantic 
structural markup, but some yahoos want us to be able to pull out and 
remix headings and links and have them still make sense.

It's at times like these that my suspicion that the Working Group wants 
every document on the Web to look like W3C standards reports is 
reinforced. Even Tim Berners-Lee doesn't make documents that look like 
CERN research papers anymore.

Linear reading order is a nonstarter. No one has proven it is a real 
accessibility problem. It's just something the Working Group-- and why 
*does* it hate the Web so?-- latches onto in order to penalize good 
developers from making advanced, attractive, and indeed accessible sites.


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