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RE: Linear reading order

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:55:27 +0100
To: "'Yvette P. Hoitink'" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>
Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20040707135527.D494A4F0C4@homer.w3.org>

Just a warning: Splitting sentences is almost never a good idea for
translatability. Foreign language syntax makes this at best difficult to
deal with, and very often impossible. (
http://www.multilingual.com/ishida43.htm )

FWIW, i18n uses a similar approach in its articles for in-margin notes, but
goes to some lengths (using wrapping divs) to ensure that the sidenote is
read at the right place in the flow of text. (This would be easier if there
was better standards support, but it works.) See three examples at


Richard Ishida

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette P. Hoitink
> Sent: 07 July 2004 13:00
> To: jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
> Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Linear reading order
> Jason wrote:
> > Just another thought: perhaps Yvette's well chosen example simply 
> > fails guideline 1.3 because the structure is in the CSS 
> rather than in 
> > the markup.
> Where in 1.3 does it say that structure has to be in the 
> markup rather than in the CSS? Or do you mean "Structures and 
> relationships within the content can be derived programmatically"? 
> If you look at the HTML techniques for this SC, it's all 
> about using the correct tag to mark up a tekst. I don't think 
> many authors would feel that using two paragraphs, one 
> floating left and one floating right, would violate this SC. 
> From a principal point of view, I think breaking up a 
> sentence in two paragraphs is violating this SC but I don't 
> want to bet my money whether a panel of experts would agree 
> with me with a high degree of interrater reliability.
> Yvette Hoitink
> Heritas, Enschede, the Netherlands
> E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl
> WWW: http://www.heritas.nl
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