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RE: Is the word Short measurable

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:29:38 -0500
To: "'Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)'" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <auto-000068767851@spamarrest.com>

Nice Roberto, Very nice,

    I propose we use this instead of what we have.   Please look at it and
comment. 

1.  Audio content does not contain background sounds OR the background
sounds are at least 20 decibels lower than the foreground audio content with
the exception of occasional sound effects. </proposed>

ALSO - I think that we should combine this one (which only has one - level 3
success criteria) with the previous guideline.    So think about this too.

 
Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 


-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) [mailto:rscano@iwa-italy.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:09 AM
To: gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Is the word Short measurable

    <proposed>
    1.      Audio content does not contain background sounds OR the
background
    sounds are at least 20 decibels lower than the foreground audio content
with
    the exception of occasional sound effects. </proposed>


----- Messaggio originale -----
    Da: "Gregg Vanderheiden"<gv@trace.wisc.edu>
    Inviato: 15/06/04 6.50.16
    A: "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org"<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
    Oggetto: RE: Is the word Short measurable
    
    
    I agree
    
      Any wordsmiths that can figure out how?
    
     
    Gregg
    
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    Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
    Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
    Director - Trace R & D Center 
    University of Wisconsin-Madison 
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf
    Of Roberto Castaldo
    Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:02 AM
    To: 'David MacDonald'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
    Subject: R: Is the word Short measurable
    
    
    The problem is that we should be able to creare a SC so that no
particular
    kind of media is left out.
    
    I think we should find the way not to specify fixed numbers, but I
realize
    it's almost impossible if we want to keep the SC testable; also the 20
db
    threshold is a fixed number, but in that particular case, I feel that
it's a
    reasonable compromise.
    
    Best regards,
    
    Roberto Castaldo
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    ________________________________
    
    Da: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] Per
conto
    di Gregg Vanderheiden
    Inviato: venerd́ 11 giugno 2004 22.22
    A: 'David MacDonald'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
    Oggetto: RE: Is the word Short measurable
    
    
    
    Better
    
    But I think this would still eliminate all war films. 
    
    It is level 3 but… 
    
     
    
    I wonder if we can figure a way to get what we want without catching so
much
    else that it would be ok to leave out. 
    
     
    
    
    Gregg
    
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    Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
    Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
    Director - Trace R & D Center 
    University of Wisconsin-Madison 
    
    ________________________________
    
    From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf
    Of David MacDonald
    Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:10 PM
    To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
    Subject: RE: Is the word Short measurable
    
     
    
    I propose we rewrite:
    
     
    
    Level 3 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.5 
     
    <current>
    1.      Audio content does not contain background sounds OR the
background
    sounds are at least 20 decibels lower than the foreground audio content
with
    the exception of occasional short sounds. [V] </current>
     
    <proposed>
    1.      Audio content does not contain background sounds OR the
background
    sounds are at least 20 decibels lower than the foreground audio content
with
    the exception of occasional short sounds. (where “short” may be defined
as
    less that 10 seconds and “occasional” may be defined as occurring more
    frequently than once every 10 minutes.) [V] </proposed>
     
     
     
    In an attempt to make our guidelines testable, I chose 10 seconds as the
as
    the threshold for the word “short” to allow for what the movie industry
    would describe as an airplane passing overhead or a bomb exploding. I
chose
    10 minutes as the threshold for “occasional” because I think any more
    frequency than that would be quite distracting and difficult to follow 
    

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