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RE: question: fixed vs. liquid layout

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:20:33 -0500
To: "'Maurizio Boscarol'" <maurizio@usabile.it>, "'W3C WAI'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <auto-000068761202@spamarrest.com>

1 - good questions
2 - in order to allow people to view things in large print without having to
buy a huge screen - it needs to be flowable -- but that may not always be

RE using the horizontal scrollbar -- it is almost impossible to scroll back
and forth and keep track of the line you are on.

Try making a window with non flowing text just 15 or 20 char wide and then
read it using h scroll bar.

But we need to find a way to do this that is practical.  Or to put it at
level 3 where it is only done when by those that really want to make a page
accessible as it can be. 


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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Maurizio Boscarol
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:00 AM
Subject: question: fixed vs. liquid layout

I have a question: how should we rule about relative/absolute units for 

Do we mean that every layout should be "liquid", or fluid?

Another way of viewing it: is a fixed layout "per se" inaccessible?

Another related question: is a horizontal bar an accessibility (rather 
than usability) issue?

Let a part that pixels are defined as relative units, so that checkpoint 
3.4 in wcag 1 tends to be very ambiguous. But what we need really to do 
to have an accessible layout? Absolutely liquid? ;-)  Ore relatively 
short fixed is good enough (just to fit 640 x 480)? Or fixed layouts are 
not a problem at all, as long as you can use the horizontal scrollbar? 
I've been thinking about it for a long time, and I'd like to hear the wg 

Thank you

Maurizio Boscarol
Received on Tuesday, 15 June 2004 01:21:17 UTC

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