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Re: Participation in good standing

From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:07:34 -0500
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To: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>, WAI-GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>


Please note that this [1] is a draft, it is not final and we are still
discussing it.  I have clarified this by adding the following disclaimer to
the beginning of the document: "This is a draft. This has not been approved 
by the WCAG WG and is not operative. It is for discussion purposes 
only.  Please send comments to w3c-wai-gl@w3.org."

At Wednesday's meeting we discussed that if someone had to attend both 
the  techniques task force telecon *and* the WCAG WG telecon *and* keep up 
on  the mailing list, the minimum 4 hours of time expected to contribute 
(per our charter) would be eaten up without doing any real 
work.  Therefore, it seems to make sense that a person could participate in 
either the task force telecons or the WCAG WG telecons to be considered a 
participant in good standing.  However, we want to make sure that we are 
not running two separate groups.  The task force is not publishing its own 
documents, it is working on documents for the WCAG WG.  Keeping the two 
groups in synch is key and overlapping participation helps.

Our policies will not change overnight or without warning.  This is a draft 
that was produced for discussion.  This is part of the transition to 
adopting our new charter and the new process document and, in the near 
future, adopting the new patent policy.  As part of this transition, other 
aspects of our work will be discussed, better documented and revised.


[1] <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2003/12/wttf.html>

At 01:41 PM 12/13/2003, Joe Clark wrote:

>I want WAI (read well: WAI) to be very, very clear about what it truly
>means here:
> > Work statement [1]: focused mainly on membership requirements for our task
> > force. People need to be members in good standing of the larger WCAG group
> > but can focus their time commitment to techniques, or split their time.
>The membership requirements seem to have been unilaterally upgraded
>overnight to read as follows:
>    Task Force participants must be participants in good standing of
>    the WCAG WG, should have experience with a Web technology (such as
>    HTML, CSS, or SVG), and must actively contribute to the work of the
>    Task Force, including:
>      * minimum 2 hours per week of Task Force work
>      * remain current on the mailing list and respond in a timely manner
>        to postings on mailing list
>      * participate in Task Force telephone meetings, or send regrets to
>        the list
>      * assist in preparing Task Force deliverables for discussion
>Essentially, even to work on HTML techniques now requires one to be PiGS
>(participant in good standing).
>1. That was not the case before.
>2. Is that really and truly what the World Wide Web Consortium wishes to
>insist on now?
>Answer question 2 very carefully indeed. The Web Accessibility Initiative
>stands to permanently alienate contributors if it actually puts the
>proposal into practice. Perhaps I should add a third question:
>3. Is that the result WAI actually intends?
>Public responses, to the list, *only*, please.
>   Joe Clark  |  joeclark@joeclark.org
>   Author, _Building Accessible Websites_
>   <http://joeclark.org/access/> | <http://joeclark.org/book/>

wendy a chisholm
world wide web consortium
web accessibility initiative
Received on Monday, 15 December 2003 17:09:18 UTC

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