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RE: Form and label element association

From: Al Gilman <al.gilman@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:59:13 -0500
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To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Cc: "Chris Hofstader" <chrish@freedomscientific.com>

At 02:56 PM 2003-12-10, Chris Hofstader wrote:

>We have already recommended this to the W3C/WAI and hope that the 
>attribute not remain specific to JAWS.  I discussed this with Al Gilman in 
>DC last week and there does seem to be some discussion within W3C on the 

Yes, and thank you Chris.

PF expects to be working on "orientation in forms" in the new year.
The 'context help' HTML extension attribute and Jaws function are
included in this topic, and set off this round of consideration.

A check on what is provided in XHTML 2.0 is in the PF charter and a
backward-compatible pattern of XHTML 1.1 practice is in the WCAG
charter.  We need both and hopefully they won't be taking
unnecessarily divergent tacks.

We would like to work with y'all on this.  I'll follow up with Jason Gregg
and Wendy on how to organize the charge.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: John M Slatin [mailto:john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:27 PM
>To: Sailesh Panchang; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>Cc: Chris Hofstader
>Subject: RE: Form and label element association
>I heard somewhere (perhaps from someone at Freedom Scientific?) that the 
>company plans to propose the context-help attribute as an addition to 
>XHTML sometime in the future. If that happens, then we can recommend that 
>developers use it.  But in the meantime-- proprietary attributes line the 
>road to madness for end-users and developers alike.
>My two cents' worth.
>"Good design is accessible design."
>Please note our new name and URL!
>John Slatin, Ph.D.
>Director, Accessibility Institute
>University of Texas at Austin
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On 
>Behalf Of Sailesh Panchang
>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:02 pm
>To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>Cc: Chris Hofstader
>Subject: Re: Form and label element association
>While on this subject:
>For making a form accessible to JAWS 5.0 users, an HTML tag that Freedom 
>Scientific supports is  ContextHelp. Here is an example... it is not  a 
>standard though.
><label for="pcp" >Name of PCP:</label>
><input type="text" id="pcp" tabindex="10" ContextHelp="Enter name of 
>primary care physician" />
>When JAWS encounters this it says "Press Insert+F1 for help" and one can 
>hear the help text and then press Exc to excape... all this in forms data 
>entry mode. Must say it works well for me.
>Sailesh Panchang
>Senior Accessibility Engineer
>Deque Systems,11180  Sunrise Valley Drive,
>4th Floor, Reston VA 20191
>Tel: 703-225-0380 Extension 105
>E-mail: <mailto:sailesh.panchang@deque.com>sailesh.panchang@deque.com
>Fax: 703-225-0387
>* Look up <<http://www.deque.com>http://www.deque.com> *
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