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Re: Edit in Scope section

From: Doyle Burnett <dburnett@sesa.org>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:50:50 -0900
To: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>, Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, Wendy Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>, W3C Web Content <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <BBD01E5A.12E3%dburnett@sesa.org>

I agree - move forward with what Wendy wrote.

Doyle


Doyle Burnett
Education and Training Specialist
Multiple Disabilities Program
Special Education Service Agency
dburnett@sesa.org
Www.sesa.org
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On 11/6/03 1:53 PM, "John M Slatin" <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

> 
> Excellent.  Onward!
> 
> 
> "Good design is accessible design."
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:09 pm
> To: 'Wendy A Chisholm'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Edit in Scope section
> 
> 
> 
> Nice one Wendy.
> 
> Unless someone has an objection to this -- I think we should try it out
> and move on for now.  If someone sees a problem with it when
> incorporated - then re-raise it.
> 
> Please look over the great work done by our two subcommittees so we can
> get the Plain language and testability work incorporated.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Gregg
> 
> -- ------------------------------
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> Director - Trace R & D Center
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy A Chisholm [mailto:wendy@w3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Edit in Scope section
> 
> Can we simply say, "These guidelines provide recommendations to
> developers 
> and managers who wish to make Web content more accessible and usable by
> people with disabilities."
> 
> In other words, remove the adjectives and simply say "people with
> disabilities."  Later, we can enumerate the types and combinations of
> disabilities or leave it to the EOWG documents.
> 
> --wendy
> 
> At 07:16 PM 11/5/2003, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> 
>> I think the objective was to say that the guidelines are meant to apply
> to 
>> people with all different types of disabilities.    This is in contrast
> to 
>> guidelines that apply to some (different disabilities) but omit others.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   different types of disabilities  could mean just   vision, hearing,
> and 
>> physical.    The ALL was meant to make the goal to include all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (or at least all that can be addressed by web content design.  Lower
>> back
>> pain and chemical sensitivity being two that are not in this category).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What we had was clearly bad English.     But how to do we do it well to
> 
>> cover all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Full range is the best Ive seen of the suggestions.  Implies not only
>> types but degrees.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hmmmm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gregg
>> 
>>  -- ------------------------------
>> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>> Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
>> Director - Trace R & D Center
>> University of Wisconsin-Madison
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
>> Behalf Of Doyle Burnett
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:53 PM
>> To: Sailesh Panchang; W3C Web Content
>> Subject: Re: Edit in Scope section
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would agree with Sailesh full range is a confusing phrase as it could
> 
>> be
>> implied that a person or persons have the full range of a GIVEN
>> disability.  I feel, usable by people having different kinds of
>> disabilitiesis the best way to present what I am guessing were trying
> to
> say.
>> 
>> Doyle Burnett
>> 
>> 
>> Doyle Burnett
>> Education and Training Specialist
>> Multiple Disabilities Program
>> Special Education Service Agency
>> dburnett@sesa.org
>> Www.sesa.org
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/5/03 11:24 AM, "Sailesh Panchang" <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Refer to WCAG 2.0 Scope. A statement reads:
>> "...and usable by people with a full range of disabilities. "
>> 
>> Probably  what is meant is  "usable by people  having different kinds
>> of
>> disabilities"
>> Does "people with full range"  imply   only those those individuals
> each 
>> of whom have  all disabilities  imaginable? Probably not.
>> Sailesh Panchang
>> Senior Accessibility Engineer
>> Deque Systems,11180  Sunrise Valley Drive,
>> 4th Floor, Reston VA 20191
>> Tel: 703-225-0380 Extension 105
>> E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
>> Fax: 703-225-0387
>> * Look up <http://www.deque.com> *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
Received on Thursday, 6 November 2003 19:48:57 GMT

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