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FW: [Issue 320] Add definition to 1.1 for ability to be expressed in words

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:49:21 -0600
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
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This is good.
Except we need something besides "a few words"
Otherwise there is no longdesc (or d-link).  Just very short alt text.

But if we say "expressed in 50 words or less" someone will ask where the
number 50 came from.

But all limits are eventually arbitrary.  

Anyone want to nominate a nice objective number so this is testable? 


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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 

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------- Additional Comments From caldwell@trace.wisc.edu  2003-10-28 10:50
SIDAR's WCAG2-espa group writes:

3)Guideline 1: Core Checkpoints: 1.1

URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-WCAG20-20030624/#text-equiv

We think it's a basic conceptual error to use the expression "non-text
content that can be expressed in words". What does it mean? All content
*can* be expressed in words or described in some way. With all our
respect it's like saying "oops sorry,  I remained speachless" in the ALT
attribute of an image. When one reads Required Success Criteria 2. of
this checkpoint, one thinks you are talking about "non-text content that
can not be expressed in *a few* words". So, shoudn't the Checkpoint
read: "1.1 [CORE] All non-text content that can be expressed in a few
words has a text equivalent of the function or information that the
non-text content was intended to convey. [was 1.1]". And Required
Success Criteria 2. should read: "non-text content that can not be
expressed in a few words has a descriptive label provided as its


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