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Re: Re[2]: FW: acronym in title...

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 05:54:45 -0500 (EST)
To: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
cc: <ishida@w3.org>, <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>, <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303140551580.16992-100000@tux.w3.org>

Hi folks,

I am working up a demo now. The basic idea is that using annotea we can point
to the text in question and provide an alternative version for it - e.g. a
couple of words in the title of an HTML document, or within an alt attribute.

As far as I know this is not yet supported by annotea clients in a clean
authoring/reading interface, but this may become a useful demonstration case
for what we would like (and for why it would be better in common cases to
have a simpler method using language built-ins).

I'll get back to you when I have posted the demo page and annotation...

cheers

Chaals

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG wrote:

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>From: "Al Gilman" <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
>To: "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>; <ishida@w3.org>;
><w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>; <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>
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>Subject: Re: Re[2]: FW: acronym in title...
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>>I would approach the assistive technology developers and ask what
>>kind of an indirect relationship they could most readily see
>>implementing.  Will they come to the W3C DOM for this information?
>>Do we need to get it into MSAA?
>
>I think that IBM and other W3C member that create these applications could
>reply to this.
>
>>It would not be hard to write a tool that reads a glossary and
>>adds things like the language information to HTML attributes where
>>they appear in the DOM.  Then the assistive technology could know that
>>'Piazza San Marco' was Italian.
>
>Hum... i think it would be difficoult to have a full dictionary for all the
>possible words.
>But - at now - i have no proposal for solution in my mind :-/
>
>>The problem is that if the HTML Working Group were to introduce an
>>incompatible change in a minor release like that, who would implement
>>it?  The conventional wisdom is "nobody."  And I am not inclined to
>>second-guess the experts on that point.
>>
>>Incompatible changes in HTML are generally not going to be considered
>>outside the XHTML 2.0 activity, as it is risky to think with the heavy use
>>of HTML all the time that any incompatible changes will be taken up in
>>practice, even with the best efforts of the HTML WG.
>>
>>XHTML 2.0 is the version that HTML WG is working on.  We would have to have
>>a flaming disaster going on to get an incompatible change released as some
>>sort of an interim patch, and it is not clear who would implement it.
>>
>>Besides, there are too many, too good, ways to do this in ways that
>>interoperate with HTML 2.0.
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>[cut]
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>>There is also a plugin option for the browser extension.  Also an
>>independent screen scraper like Atomica.
>
>So, at least, for the "previous" version all we can do is to "hope" to
>have - for example - intelligent text readers that read the words in the
>natural language...
>
>Roberto Scano
>IWA/HWG EMEA Coordinator
>W3C Advisory Committee Representative for IWA/HWG
>International Webmasters Association / HTML Writers Guild
>http://www.iwanet.org - http://www.hwg.org
>E-Mail: emea@iwanet.org - w3c-rep@iwanet.org
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