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RE: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions from Jan 8 Telecon)

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:58:02 -0000
To: <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <002301c2ceb0$ee5cf2b0$6401a8c0@w3c40upc3ma3j2>

Yes, I take your point there.  

Perhaps you could say "keyboard or microphone"?  I think you mean to
include speech input, right? Trying to spell out which keys on the
keyboard seems problematic and unnecessary (in addition to graphic
character keys and cursor keys there are many other control keys such as
alt, ctrl,  alt-graph, context-menu, start, function keys, shift and
caps lock keys, ime-dedicated keys in East Asian keyboards, scrolling,
tabbing, etc. etc.).  Just saying 'keyboard' covers all that though,
doesn't it?

RI

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
> Sent: 07 February 2003 13:37
> To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: RE: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions 
> from Jan 8 Telecon)
> 
> 
> 
> Hmmmm
> 
> We can't say "keyboard or other input device" since that 
> would allow mouse only web pages.
> 
> But  Unicode and cursor control Keys keys should cover all 
> that we are looking for.  Yes?
> 
>  
> Gregg
> 
>  -- ------------------------------ 
> Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
> Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> Director - Trace R & D Center 
> University of Wisconsin-Madison 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Scano 
> - IWA/HWG
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:42 PM
> To: ishida@w3.org; gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: Re: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions from Jan 8
> Telecon)
> 
> 
> Thank u Richard.
> As you see i've changed the post with another one :)
> 
> Webopedia is a powerful tool for us for make "right 
> reference" to the "right terms" to use :)
> 
> Roberto Scano
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>
> To: <gv@trace.wisc.edu>; "'Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG'" 
> <rscano@iwa-italy.org>; <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:39 PM
> Subject: RE: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions from Jan 8
> Telecon)
> 
> 
> Remember also that not everyone in the world uses QWERTY 
> keyboards.  I think you need to focus less on the specific 
> characters involved and more on enabling the functionality 
> through some alternative method. I would just say: "through a 
> keyboard or other input device"
> 
> Hope that helps,
> RI
> 
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> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
> > Sent: 06 February 2003 19:21
> > To: 'Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions 
> from Jan 8 
> > Telecon)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmmm
> > That may not be clear.
> > Are "function keys" in a qwerty layout?
> > Are "arrow keys"?
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> >
> >  -- ------------------------------
> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> > Director - Trace R & D Center
> > University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Roberto Scano
> > - IWA/HWG
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:00 PM
> > To: gv@trace.wisc.edu; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions from Jan 8
> > Telecon)
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > We can refer to the "webopedia" 
> > http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/k/keyboard.html
> >
> > why don't add
> > this text at the end of the phrase:
> >
> > "and special keys that are available in QWERTY layout  keyboard"
> >
> > ?
> >
> > These are my two cents ;-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
> > To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: character Input -- Checkpoint 2.1 (revisions from Jan 8
> > Telecon)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We need to add something beyond just the Unicode.   Hmmm  Just add
> > The following to the end of what you have   ...  "plus
> > standard character
> > Entry and editing keys (up, down, left, and right arrows, etc.)
> >
> >   I wonder.  The Device Control 1,2,3,4 codes in UNICODE. 
> Aren't those
> > usually
> > arrow keys?
> > The following are all std UNICODE characters
> >
> > SPACE
> > ESCAPE
> > TAB
> > ENTER / RETURN
> > LINE FEED
> > DELETE (BACKSPACE)
> > PAGEFEED
> > VERTICAL TAB   (what is this exactly. Tab down to specified
> > place on page?)
> >
> >
> > Gregg
> >
> >  -- ------------------------------
> > Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> > Director - Trace R & D Center
> > University of Wisconsin-Madison
> > > Definitions (informative)
> > >    Character input is defined as those characters that 
> can be mapped
> > to
> > >    the character set of the W3C Character Model (which is based on
> > >    Unicode).
> >
> 
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