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Server-Side Techniques and ATAG (was: How to ... discuss an issue (was: Re: Scripting))

From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:51:25 -0700
Cc: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, WAI GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
To: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Message-Id: <4BBECC9C-A03C-11D7-924E-000393D9E692@idyllmtn.com>

FWIW, server-side scripting techniques would seem to fall somewhere
between both the WCAG working group and the ATAG working group.  There
is a fuzzy border between "a server-side process that promotes
accessibility" and "an application on the server which is generating
accessible content."

I think this is a case where both groups need to have input and  
understanding,
if just to know where the borders begin and end.  (For example, to what
degree do server-side techniques to satisfy WCAG have to comply with
ATAG?  At some point, this will be true -- say, a content management
system a la Edapta [RIP] but it's not always true for something like
mod_accessibility.  This is a good topic for cross-group perspectives.)

--Kynn

On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 11:55 AM, Wendy A Chisholm wrote:

>
> If you would like the WCAG WG to discuss a specific issue,
>
> 1. check if the issue is already in the issues list
> links to condensed bug report lists:  
> http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/condensedreports/
> we have 4 open issues related to client-side scripting:
> http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/condensedreports/ 
> clientside_issues.php
>
> 2.  If your issue is not on the issues list
> create a new issue in the WCAG Bugzilla database
> http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/
>
> 3. Propose a solution to the issue and send it to the mailing list
> For example, refer to this message from Michael Cooper about using the  
> summary attribute on Table elements.  He summarizes the possibilities  
> and proposes a solution.   
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2003AprJun/0294.html
>
> Another good example:
> summarize the issue and raise questions that we need to answer about a  
> particular technique:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2003AprJun/0215.html
>
> ===
> While scripting issues have not been the core of our discussions, we  
> have been making progress. Here is an overview of what's been  
> happening with Techniques for WCAG 2.0  
> (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wcag20.html#techs).
>
> 1. updating issues lists.
> all previous HTML issues have been moved to bugzilla
>
> 2. discussing open issues on Wednesday telecons and mailing list
> primarily addressing HTML issues, summary of those discussed in the  
> last few weeks:
> - tables
> - alt/title/longdesc
> - abbr/acronym
>
> 3. designing schema and tools for techniques
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/sources/xmlspec-tech.dtd
>
> 4. converting old html techniques to new dtd
> Loretta is doing this. She is also converting the PDF Techniques to  
> the new dtd
>
> Best,
> --wendy
>
>
> At 11:11 AM 6/14/2003, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
>> The regular annual wake for:
>> "Client-side Scripting Techniques for Web Content Accessibility  
>> Guidelines 2.0"
>> http://www.learningdifficulty.org/develop/script-techs.html
>>
>> is fast approaching.
>>
>>
>> Please can anyone advise me in what sense is WCAG fulfilling it scope  
>> with respect to scripting?
>> other W3C technologies?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Jonathan
>> http://www.peepo.com
>> enabling people with a severe learning difficulty to browse the web  
>> independently
>>
>> Congratulations on the working group logo 'b-10-family1.png' though  
>> this is perhaps not ideal as a name, how about 'working group  
>> logo.png'.
>> Sorry not to have contributed more, perhaps its time I rejoined as an  
>> active participant.
>
> -- 
> wendy a chisholm
> world wide web consortium
> web accessibility initiative
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/
> /--
>
>
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Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>                     http://kynn.com
Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain                http://idyllmtn.com
Author, CSS in 24 Hours                       http://cssin24hours.com
Inland Anti-Empire Blog                      http://blog.kynn.com/iae
Shock & Awe Blog                           http://blog.kynn.com/shock
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