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RE: [166] Organize documents so they may be read without style sheets

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:10:13 -0400 (EDT)
To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
cc: "'Jonathan O'Donnell'" <jonathan.odonnell@ngv.vic.gov.au>, "'Joe Clark'" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "'WAI'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0306130708550.1150-100000@tux.w3.org>

Another approach.

Annotate the document changes (for example via annotea [1]) and then provide
a link to a service that can extract the annotations and add the initials.



On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:

>Why do you put color in document but not initials?  Why not initials too,
>and let people use style sheets to suppress them if they choose.  Or......
> -- ------------------------------
>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
>Director - Trace R & D Center
>University of Wisconsin-Madison
>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf
>Of Jonathan O'Donnell
>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:41 PM
>To: Joe Clark; WAI
>Subject: Re: [166] Organize documents so they may be read without style
>Hi Joe and all
>In general, CSS aids accessibility.  However, I have stumbled across the
>problem that you describe with CSS-generated content.
>On some Web pages, I would like to distinguish content contributed by other
>authors.  I set up CSS rules that add initials to the end of each
>contributed item.  To help sighted readers, I also coloured the contributed
>Without the CSS (eg Internet Explorer 5.2 under Mac OS X), readers get
>colour, but no initials.  With the CSS (eg Safari 1.0 beta 2 or Netscape
>7.02 under Mac OS X), they get colour and initials.
>A simple example can be seen at:
>    http://purl.nla.gov.au/net/jod/metadata/css_example.html#after
>The relevant CSS is:
>    {
>    content: " [tomtom]";
>    }
>As far as I am concerned this flunks WCAG 2.0, or any other accessibility
>This doesn't change my belief that the content of the document should not
>rely on style sheets for the user to know what it is.  I just don't know how
>to do it in this case.

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