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RE: magnifiers vs relative font-sizes

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:48:17 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Slaydon, Eugenia" <ESlaydon@beacontec.com>
cc: "'jonathan chetwynd'" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0207142137360.12459-100000@tux.w3.org>

No, it is saying that people who use Netscape 4.x browsers shouldn't expect
it to handle HTML and CSS very well under certain circumstances. I don't have
any problem with people using Netscape 4.x (or any other browser) if they
happen to like it and it suits their needs, but I have a big problem with
people turning up with broken systems and expecting that the Web be broken to
match. As well as with sites that do break the Web to match such systems.
They tend to be simple problems - I think the most common is "I can't make a
payment here so I will go find another provider". I don't expect peoploe to
resolve the problems caused by bugs in my browser (the one that annoys me
most is missing some CSS-positioning, although it isn't more than cosmetic
until people try to use presentation to convey critical structure

I have a strong reason for preferring relative font-sizes - they are what I
need to be able to keep reading for the day. In fact some of my browsers do
pretty good zooming. The ones that require proper coding...


On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Slaydon, Eugenia wrote:

>I still have a problem with pushing for relative font-sizes in CSS because
>it is destroyed in Netscape. Saying that you must use relative font sizes
>instead of absolute for accessibility is the same as saying you aren't
>allowed to use a Netscape 4.x browser.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonathan chetwynd [mailto:j.chetwynd@btinternet.com]
>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:23 AM
>To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>Subject: magnifiers vs relative font-sizes
>Does anyone have strong reasons for preferring relative font-sizes to a
>screen maginifier?
>if so what are they?
>For magnifiers:
>There is a serious conflict between the necessity of
>keeping everything on one page, and allowing users to control font size.
>for people with severe learning difficulties, this is particularly acute.
>magnifiers, allow one to gain a feel for the whole document, whilst
>enlarging a part.
>setting the font size to large makes the document larger than the screen,
>one looses the ability to percieve the whole.
>further, a great number of people don't appreciate that there is more than
>one can see.
>from an offline discussion with Boris Zbarsky, following from a recent brief
>thread at www-style:
>scale: font-size to % of client window?
>jonathan chetwynd

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