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Re: accessible forms

From: Doyle B <doyleb@alaska.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 04:15:50 -0800
Message-ID: <000b01c21aaf$b70a4de0$6601a8c0@madyburnett>
To: "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org>, "jonathan chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Cc: "Lisa Seeman" <seeman@netvision.net.il>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>

With respect to acces keys or combinations thereof, many assistive
technology computer software programs use access keys as well.  The problem
starts arising when there are conflicts between keys.  Meaning, if a person
had multiple programs going for one reason or another the more likely it
would be that assigned function keys could conflict.  The operating system
has a set of its own access )or maybe function keys), and any additional
program would have its set of access keys.

Doyle Burnett

But, the
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org>
To: "jonathan chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Cc: "Lisa Seeman" <seeman@netvision.net.il>; <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: accessible forms


>
> Hmmm. If you mean there is no standard accesskey for doing a particular
thing
> you are right.
>
> If you consider the list of things people need accesskeys for this isn't
very
> surprising. After 10 years browsers don't have a standard way to move down
> one page. And editors don't have a standard way to save a document after
30
> years.
>
> Some people will want a user agent that applies a given access key in a
given
> way - this is possible (for example Internet Explorer applies the key
alt-f
> to the file menu, and ignores whatever the page author thought it might be
> helpful for). If we had xlinks with meaningful role attributes, or to a
large
> extent even if people used rel attributes on HTML links, this would be a
lot
> easier.
>
> But it will never be standardised across browsers I don't think - there
are
> too many people who have got used to their favourite and will want to make
> sure anything they use does their favourite key mappings. There is one
screen
> reader for Windows (I forget which) that provides the ability to use
differnt
> key mappings as a sales feature, and a lot of the software I use does too.
>
> Cheers
>
> Charles
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, jonathan chetwynd wrote:
>
>
>   unfortunately access keys dont have a standard, to my knowledge.
>   tx
>   j
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Lisa Seeman" <seeman@netvision.net.il>
>   To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>   Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:00 AM
>   Subject: Re: accessible forms
>
>
>   >
>   > My favorite way: access keys
>   > If all form elements have a sequential access key, and your up to "j"
>   press
>   > alt "k" and move on.
>   > I also put a page map at the top of each page (can be done invisibly)
with
>   > links to page sections. You can always use access key 0 to jump back
to
>   the
>   > page map and reorentate yourself.
>   > So if you find yourself in a lengthy section that you don't want to e
in -
>   > don't be there.
>   > All the best,
>   > and I must say, you seem on top of your subject.
>   > Lisa
>   >
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