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RE: 4.1

From: Lisa Seeman <seeman@netvision.net.il>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:03:48 +0200
To: GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Message-id: <001e01c2128f$529adfa0$3100000a@lisa>

One of the project I am working on hear is a platform for equivalency. the
content inside the presentation ect,
if you want to take a look let me know.

Lisa


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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:20 PM
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: 4.1



Hi Jonathan,

Interesting.

Do you have some specific wording suggestions to consider?

Gregg

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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Ind Engr - Biomed - Trace,  Univ of Wis
gv@trace.wisc.edu




> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf
> Of jonathan chetwynd
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:15 AM
> To: Charles McCathieNevile
> Cc: Chris O'Kennon; ''Lee Roberts ' '; ''w3c-wai-gl@w3.org ' '
> Subject: Re: 4.1
>
>
> Unfortunately I still feel that whilst we are in agreement on some
> aspects of a verbal or textual exposition of what is required, very
> little effort is being put into equivalence. Theatre, music, poetry
and
> oratory have a very ancient heritage, one the web is not finding easy
to
> emulate.
>
> When a piece of text produces a coherent audio output, that is
> wonderful. however we are a long way from producing multi-media
> equivalence, mechanically. Until that remote time, this means both
> creating dramatic, pictorial, photographic and or symbolic
> representations of complex concepts; and identifying where possible
> generalizations that can be incorporated into guidelines*.
>
> It is essential that at this early stage we extract what is do-able.
> There is no sense in defining this as the task though.
>
> However, it is also necessary to plot a route to the far more remote,
> and this is what I feel has been avoided over the past 4 years.
> Part of this plotting, requires dead-reckoning, being prepared to
fail,
> and attempting the apparently impossible, ie in the case of w3/wai a
> graphical representation of some aspects of the guidelines.
> Fortunately, if the ecmascript techniques document is developed, this
> will almost certainly produce some graphical examples.
>
> It also seems to me that the whole of Guideline 4.-Comprehension
leaves
> far too much  responsibility in the hands of authors.
> Users are in a far better position to qualify acceptibility, and
should
> be involved in the process. if members of a family enjoy the online
> family album, surely that is a better guide than the authors+w3
> guidelines. We only can try our best but users ultimately are our
guide,
> and this needs to be made explicit.
>
> thanks
>
> jonathan
>
> I do have to say that as usual, I have not spent as much time as I
would
> like actually studying the available reources at w3c/wai
>
>
> *Merely stating that some people prefer one format is not that
helpful.
>


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