- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:01:33 -0700
- To: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, "Lisa Seeman" <seeman@netvision.net.il>, <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>
- Cc: <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, "_W3C-WAI Web Content Access. Guidelines List" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 11:02 PM +0100 2001/9/30, Jim Ley wrote: > > Lets take a table layout, not good for some who have old screen readers, >> that just read strait across the page or have linearization problems. > >Script or not using tables could be used to solve this, how many of these >screen readers are there really in use whereby they have screen readers >who can't manage that, for windows I could write a table reader in about >an hour, would be about a 5k download and cost nothing, if there are >really are users with that limitation, please put me in touch I could help >them a lot... It would also be trivial to write a proxy that changes tables into CSS which could be accessed by people with screenreaders -- screenreaders which don't linearize properly are, in my opinion, a Solved Problem. Now, that doesn't mean _tables which don't linearize properly_ aren't still a problem, and by that I mean poor HTML coding. I myself have been guilty of that in the past, once with a proposed redesign for an employer's site, which went: START OF TABLE ROW ONE: CELL ONE: Header A CELL TWO: Header B CELL THREE: Header C ROW TWO: CELL ONE: List of items in category A CELL TWO: List of items in category B CELL THREE: List of items in category C END OF TABLE Now, if you'll notice, that's actually fairly "correct" HTML. It's not really broken via spec, but it's borken when it comes to interpretation by screenreader. (It's actually a limitation both of HTML and of screenreaders that the above didn't work correctly; the screenreaders can't take the full blame because the HTML spec is far too loose for the kind of data association we need here. More on this if I can make Reef's single authoring markup languages public.) --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network ________________________________________ BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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