RE: SVG Plugin from Adobe

Dear Charles,
I should have poked around with different slides rather than just throwing
multiple browsers at the wrong one!
As you promised, Amaya displays quite interesting behavior with Slide31 --
definitely worth the look!
None of the other browsers did anything worth while -- but they did all show
the text!  What do you mean by "Mozilla", Netscape Navigator 6 (Mac or PC,
with or without Adobe's plug in) was just as useless for that slide as all
the others!  (The "about" box in NN 6 says "Mozilla 5".)
Amaya DOES do a nice job with magnifying everything (I guess like Opera) --
but jeez, does it only increase half a pixel at a time?  I had to "Zoom in"
like a dozen times before I could notice a difference.  (And how do I reset
the zoom level without quitting Amaya?)
Any SVG examples you know of that work with BOTH Amaya and Adobe's viewer?
Amaya just reported parsing errors when I tried to feed it Adobe's examples
directly.  Embedded SVG files don't come up at all.  Is there such a thing
as an SVG validator?
Thanks for your time!
Sincerely,
Bruce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 10:06 AM
> To: Bailey, Bruce
> Cc: 'w3c-wai-gl@w3.org'
> Subject: RE: SVG Plugin from Adobe
> 
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> Them's kind words but I guess your book editor was too easily 
> convinced by
> the long hair and beard <grin/>.
> 
> It is true that Amaya's support for SVG is at this stage very 
> limited and
> lacks some crucial elements like path (although it is being 
> worked on as we
> speak). You are correct about the first example I gave - it 
> should have been
> http://www.w3.org/2000/Talks/1116-oz/slide31-0
> 
> As I said in the original post, mixed namespace content is 
> not something that
> browsers are very good at yet outside a few special examples. 
> I believe that
> Mozilla can in fact handle the examples like Amaya does (but with more
> elements supported). Since I also used Amaya to edit them, 
> and since they do
> provide content in other browsers, I was happy with that 
> (these are slides
> from a presentation I gave, so don't always make a lot of sense out of
> context).
> 
> I think in the HTML world people will be using OBJECT or its 
> cousins for a
> while yet. In the XML world people are inclined to use SVG as a layout
> language for presenting content. Which brings up the question again of
> whether it is better to use CSS and classes in an existing 
> format, or to work
> on proper namespace support in browsers...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Charles