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RE: linearized tables

From: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:48:15 -0500
To: "WAI GL" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Cc: "Leonard R. Kasday" <kasday@acm.org>
Message-ID: <001401bf8dee$3d16cae0$53fe330a@msde>
Len is right on this one.

There are no P1 checkpoints that deal with tables used for layout, even
though the technique is very common AND poor default linearization IS
frequently a very significant obstacle.  Shouldn't anything that makes the
"Quick Tips Top Ten" list warrant P1 status?

If one is working on addressing P2 checkpoints en mass, 5.3 becomes
irrelevant since, at that point, one is using CSS anyway (or at least not
using table for layout at all)!

From a strictly semantic viewpoint, 5.3 should either be removed altogether
(since it is encompassed by 3.3), shorted to "don't use tables for layout"
(repeats part of 3.3, but provides the extra emphasis), or (my favorite)
promoted to P1 status.

Bruce Bailey


> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-er-ig-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-wai-er-ig-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Leonard R. Kasday
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 11:42 AM
> To: wai-wcag-editor@w3.org
> Cc: w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
> Subject: linearized tables
>
>
> WCAG says
>
> 5.3 Do not use tables for layout unless the table makes sense when
> linearized. Otherwise, if the table does not make sense, provide an
> alternative equivalent (which may be a linearized version). [Priority 2]
>
> This means that someone could use tables for layout in way that the page
> makes no sense and is not usable by any of todays user agents...
> but still
> get an A conformance rating, because this is only priority 2.
>
> For example, if there's a form laid out in a table with field
> labels on the
> top row and corresponding fields on the bottom row.
>
> I think the checkpoint needs to be Priority 1.
>
> Len
>
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> Department of Electrical Engineering
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>
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